[Albion] Newcastle United vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***

[BN41Albion]

We have not really recovered from extra time and disappointment at Wembley have we?
Think it's a bit unfair to lay too much of what went wrong tonight on the players that have not played much. Eddie Howe had a plan, his players executed it well, and without being at full strength, we struggled.
Many times under Potter a team came to the Amex, and the away fans said that was their worst performance, not crediting Brighton with having stopped them being able to play their game. We came up against a manager who played us right, we were below the strength we have had most of the season, and that made it even tougher.
Lets give Newcastle and Howe a bit of credit for working hard and making it hard for us to be at our best.

Yeah, to an extent, but his job was made much easier by the 11 we started with on the pitch. Would have loved to see our 1st 11 go up against theirs- we'd have given them a great game I'm sure. Alas fixture congestion and injuries fvcked us over for this one

 

[GT49er]

No..I haven't said that. I'm just worried.

What about FFS? - we go out in the second round and finish lower mid-table?

Bloody hell, that would be like losing a world war, wouldn't it?

 

[GT49er]

Yeah, to an extent, but his job was made much easier by the 11 we started with on the pitch. Would have loved to see our 1st 11 go up against theirs- we'd have given them a great game I'm sure. Alas fixture congestion and injuries fvcked us over for this one

What first eleven? March, Veltman, Webster, Lallana............

 

[Brian Fantana]

Really I was down the other end and didt hear it, newcastle fans I’ve met today eveyone of them has been completely about us

Had great chats with Newcastle fans in the Lady Grey, Crown Posada and The Strawberry, so by no means tarring them all with the same brush.

 

[Baldseagull]

I think he made the right decision. Wilson was between him and Dunk and there's no way he would have caught up with him. It didn't work but it probably gave a better chance than staying deeper and getting into a foot race with Wilson.

It almost worked, but Wilson stepped back too, just enough. I was a bit disappointed at the effort he didn't put in to chasing back after though, even if it was a lost cause.

 

[pure_white]

Trippier and Burn post match on TV looked like the little and large show!

 

[Zeus]

Terrible starting line up.
Really disappointed in RDZ tonight. Only 4 games left. 360 mins of football. I’m sure the precious little cherubs could have managed.

 

[Baldseagull]

Yeah, to an extent, but his job was made much easier by the 11 we started with on the pitch. Would have loved to see our 1st 11 go up against theirs- we'd have given them a great game I'm sure. Alas fixture congestion and injuries fvcked us over for this one

Yep. Those few extra points we want were never going to be easy to get away at Newcastle though.

 

[North East Seagull]

I have just got home and still p1ssed off. I hate that lot, and Howe, and we made it easy for them. Had some interesting discussions with a couple of their fans on the bus home. They give it the big one so thought it only right to remind them they are even more plastic than citeh and remind them that everyone now hates them? For obvious reasins. Mentioned a few other things about their club/fans with no real comeback. Felt a little better, but still p1ssed off.

 

[Baldseagull]

Terrible starting line up.
Really disappointed in RDZ tonight. Only 4 games left. 360 mins of football. I’m sure the precious little cherubs could have managed.

Not a lot of choice of who played at the back, and it doesn't matter who you play up front if you can't get the ball to them.

 

[albionalex]

It almost worked, but Wilson stepped back too, just enough. I was a bit disappointed at the effort he didn't put in to chasing back after though, even if it was a lost cause.

I don't know if he picked up a knock or was just knackered but he was certainly struggling.

 

[Ooh it’s a corner]

Now waiting for an 03.15 coach at Dublin Airport so ready for a kip. Not to be tonight but as another thread says(and in best Northern Soul tradition) Keep the Faith. I was lucky enough to be near a few members of NSK I think in the ground and there was still consistent singing through much of the game which still made it worthwhile for me - thanks for leading guys - UTA

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Disappointing scoreline but deserved result unfortunately.

It was always going to be tough, even more so when the team sheet was announced. That isn't a criticism of the individual players or those that came in by the way. It's just a tough ask when not only have you got players coming in with limited first team minutes but players out of position and the lack of partnerships across the pitch.

The only regular partnership we had today was down the left with Estupinian and Mitoma and Estupinian and Dunk.

In central defense we hd dunk and van hecke playing their first(second?) game together. Van hecke and Caicedo had never played together before. Caicedo and Buonanotte have very few if any minutes together on our right flank. Same with Gilmour and Gross in midfield. Same with the three behind the striker.

That lack of cohesion is going to tell against a side as physical and intense as Newcastle. To have a chance you need to be perfect with the ball and sadly we weren't. We couldn't get the ball past midfield in the first half.

I understand why we had to rotate so I have no complaints there either. My only question is whether we could have rotated earlier in the season? Gilmour in particular looks comfortable in the team. If he'd have had more minutes over the season would Ally Mac be fresher enabling us to start both him and Gilmour against Newcastle. Likewise other positions. More rotation might have meant March or Veltman still being fit and available.

Or, were the squad players genuinely not close enough in standard until relatively recently?

I don't know. I wonder if De Zerbi does?

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

That and the fact that the majority of experienced players all had shockers.

They're shattered. Perv has been unbelievable all season, but he's gone. Pascal is ultra reliable, but he couldn't hit a pass first half. Mitoma'a tank is empty. The list goes on.

Injuries mean that we're not able to practically rest anyone. It's a shame but we all know the squad wasn't designed to play with many games this late in the season.

 

[Ooh it’s a corner]

They're shattered. Perv has been unbelievable all season, but he's gone. Pascal is ultra reliable, but he couldn't hit a pass first half. Mitoma'a track is empty. The list goes on.

Injuries mean that we're not able to practically rest anyone. It's a shame but we all know the squad wasn't designed to play with many games this late in the season.

Agree.
In that nervy second PL season we were pretty reliant on there being three worse teams than us.
This time we may well be reliant on Spurs and Villa dropping enough points as there’s certainly no guarantee we’re going to get two wins

 

[dazzer6666]

I don't know if he picked up a knock or was just knackered but he was certainly struggling.

Knock….he was on the floor (in their box) for ages a little while before - even dragged himself up and hobbled back onside when we were attacking.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

We have not really recovered from extra time and disappointment at Wembley have we?
Think it's a bit unfair to lay too much of what went wrong tonight on the players that have not played much. Eddie Howe had a plan, his players executed it well, and without being at full strength, we struggled.
Many times under Potter a team came to the Amex, and the away fans said that was their worst performance, not crediting Brighton with having stopped them being able to play their game. We came up against a manager who played us right, we were below the strength we have had most of the season, and that made it even tougher.
Lets give Newcastle and Howe a bit of credit for working hard and making it hard for us to be at our best.

Far too sensible.
I detest Newcastle, their arrogant players, their filthy owners and their smug manager even more than I did yesterday, but they were very good yesterday.
And a special raspberry to Dan Burn, who would be nowhere if it wasn’t for BHAFC.

 

[Wardy's twin]

Knock….he was in the floor (in their box) for ages a little while before - even dragged himself up and hobbled back onside when we were attacking.

Don't think he was treated either. He should have got up and fallen over again nearer the ref and maybe got some.

 

[Icy Gull]

Dan Burn really pissed me off with his goal celebrations last night, boo material for me from here on

Joel Linton is a niggly confrontational moaning twat too and he loves staying down when tackled.

Loved Enciso’s cheeky behaviour against Almiron and Caicedo’s smirking after confrontations though

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I think he made the right decision. Wilson was between him and Dunk and there's no way he would have caught up with him. It didn't work but it probably gave a better chance than staying deeper and getting into a foot race with Wilson.

Sorry, but it just doesn’t work, see my later post and explanation.

And once again this was proven. Poor decision making.