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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
Agreed. Don't forget GTA- huge loss for PS3. In fact I believe the most recent GTA was developed more for the xbox as it has the superior graphics, although that could just be a myth I heard

That is completely correct. They developed the game on Xbox360 then couldn't get it working on PS3 as PS3 did not have the graphical power to run it, so the release got delayed to accomodate the PS3's lower quality version being developed.

Sounds like complete BS but you can look it up, absolutely true. Actually screw that here it is;

http://www.pcworld.com/article/135510/grand_theft_auto_4s_delay_ps3s_fault.html

Of course if the PS3 defenders could post some sources/facts etc, then we could have a debate...
 




Old Greg

It's Choade My Dear
Feb 5, 2008
643
That is completely correct. They developed the game on Xbox360 then couldn't get it working on PS3 as PS3 did not have the graphical power to run it, so the release got delayed to accomodate the PS3's lower quality version being developed.

Sounds like complete BS but you can look it up, absolutely true. Actually screw that here it is;

http://www.pcworld.com/article/135510/grand_theft_auto_4s_delay_ps3s_fault.html

Of course if the PS3 defenders could post some sources/facts etc, then we could have a debate...

TBH i think its pathetic arguing that XBOX is better than PS3 and vise versa, just entertainment, but i have got to say this is rubbish. The problem is that it is so much harder to write and create games for the PS3, and easier to do so on the XBOX, nothing to do with the graphical capabilities.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
TBH i think its pathetic arguing that XBOX is better than PS3 and vise versa, just entertainment, but i have got to say this is rubbish. The problem is that it is so much harder to write and create games for the PS3, and easier to do so on the XBOX, nothing to do with the graphical capabilities.

Guessing you've not looked at the articles. It is WELL known Xbox360 is more graphically capable than PS3 and that IS the reason for the delays. There are comparison tests on the game on both consoles where the Xbox360 obliterates the PS3.
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
Guessing you've not looked at the articles. It is WELL known Xbox360 is more graphically capable than PS3 and that IS the reason for the delays. There are comparison tests on the game on both consoles where the Xbox360 obliterates the PS3.

provide links to this, almost all third party engines look better on PS3 e.g. cryengine 3, but of course these are all far surpassed by some of PS3s first party engines like guerilla and naughty dogs
 






Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
provide links to this, almost all third party engines look better on PS3 e.g. cryengine 3, but of course these are all far surpassed by some of PS3s first party engines like guerilla and naughty dogs

I'm more fussed about ACTUAL games that exist looking better. PS3 has the tech but does bugger all with it.
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
I'm more fussed about ACTUAL games that exist looking better. PS3 has the tech but does bugger all with it.

Because Killzone 2 doesnt exist? And far surpasses anything graphically the xbox can throw at it?
 


bhafc22

New member
Feb 21, 2009
264
Market Harborough - Midlands
lmao, some of these total BS posts need putting to bed, 360 only lost bioshock? incorrect, we also have lost planet, and now lost planet 2 coming our way, their are a few more, but this topic has far more to pick up on. Your not getting Gran Turismo, at all, ever, so i have no idea where that totally incorrect remark as come from, what i would like to know, is that if 360 is so superior, then how can Forza only manage 400 cars, whereas GT on the PSP can manage 800? Don't believe me? Look it up, you seem to enjoy doing that. Tekken has been a multi plat game for a long while now, and im sorry, but MEGA LOL at the MGS reference, way back in time, Kojima said that it was probable that the new MGS would be multi plat, and tbh, you can have a spin off, and the ps3'ers can play it to, because its not exclusive to you.
the graphics are stronger on 360? thats funny because i remember square enix saying they were making FFXIII first on ps3 because the 360 cant handle it? the devs are starting to move over to the ps3 as the dominant format now because they are starting to be able to work with the different hardware, simple as that.
what exactly was the loss of GTA? i clearly can see it being stated all over the place that sony were and are getting the DLC, and that it was, once again merely a timed exclusive, so yea, big loss their.
oh and by the way, contrary to what i said about MGS4, i have seen rumours it is coming to 360, apparently the boxart is already done.

http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/blurb_mgs4xbox360oj1_20080826.png
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
Because Killzone 2 doesnt exist? And far surpasses anything graphically the xbox can throw at it?

Killzone 2 is quite nice looking admittedly. Still doesn't really hold a torch to Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3 or Mass Effect. It only took 3 years to come out though eh? :lol:
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
Killzone 2 is quite nice looking admittedly. Still doesn't really hold a torch to Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3 or Mass Effect. It only took 3 years to come out though eh? :lol:

You think a game on UE3 stands up in comparision? Your a blatent fanboy then, idiot.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
lmao, some of these total BS posts need putting to bed, 360 only lost bioshock? incorrect, we also have lost planet, and now lost planet 2 coming our way, their are a few more, but this topic has far more to pick up on. Your not getting Gran Turismo, at all, ever, so i have no idea where that totally incorrect remark as come from, what i would like to know, is that if 360 is so superior, then how can Forza only manage 400 cars, whereas GT on the PSP can manage 800? Don't believe me? Look it up, you seem to enjoy doing that. Tekken has been a multi plat game for a long while now, and im sorry, but MEGA LOL at the MGS reference, way back in time, Kojima said that it was probable that the new MGS would be multi plat, and tbh, you can have a spin off, and the ps3'ers can play it to, because its not exclusive to you.
the graphics are stronger on 360? thats funny because i remember square enix saying they were making FFXIII first on ps3 because the 360 cant handle it? the devs are starting to move over to the ps3 as the dominant format now because they are starting to be able to work with the different hardware, simple as that.
what exactly was the loss of GTA? i clearly can see it being stated all over the place that sony were and are getting the DLC, and that it was, once again merely a timed exclusive, so yea, big loss their.
oh and by the way, contrary to what i said about MGS4, i have seen rumours it is coming to 360, apparently the boxart is already done.

http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/blurb_mgs4xbox360oj1_20080826.png

Exclusives: BioShock is the only GOOD exclusive Xbox360 has lost. LostPlanet is cack.

Gran Turismo: Where did I say it was exclusive?

Re: Forza: Hang on so PS3 is better because one independent game has more CARS than another independent game? Ridiculous evidence.

Graphics: Again, look them up. Xbox360 is known to be stronger when it comes to the same game on each console.

Developers: This just sounds like something you thought would sound good. Give me a source of developers moving over to PS3 from Xbox360 because it's "better". Bet you can't.

GTA: RockStar came out and said that the PS3 was struggling with the graphical quality of the game, so it was delayed on Xbox360 also to coincide release dates. Again, there are plenty of graphics tests on this game on both consoles where Xbox360 is clearly superior.

Tekken has never been on Xbox360 or Nintendo. So no it's not properly multi-platform. PSP doesn't even count as a console. I borrowed one and almost threw it away before rememebering it was someone else's. Couldn't wait to get back to my DS.

MGS: As you say, looks like it is happening.

Please use some punctuation. Your post was so hard to read. Also you say I like "looking things up" as if it's a bad thing to want to use facts and evidence rather than just me and you being a couple of fanboys making stuff up.
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
You think a game on UE3 stands up in comparision? Your a blatent fanboy then, idiot.

UE3? What you on about? Stands up graphically? Perhaps not. ACTUAL gameplay? Xbox360 is light years ahead. And half the price. It really is no contest.
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
UE3? What you on about? Stands up graphically? Perhaps not. ACTUAL gameplay? Xbox360 is light years ahead. And half the price. It really is no contest.

You seem to think your so knowledgeable yet dont have a clue what UE3 stands for?

XBOX is a year ahead of PS3, we have been over this before, its not cheaper when you factor in all the value for money of the PS3. Since you've clearly never played a game like God of War, Socom, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Wipeout or Warhawk i dont see how you can decide that the 4 or so games youve listed all have better gameplay, when they all fall under one category (one that plays better on a PC anyway). And stop switching the subject, you said better graphics i pointed out KZ2 has better graphics, so now suddenly its about gameplay, where the 360 falls flat on its face again? Whats next, noise? reliability? Exclusive titles? Oh wait...
 
















Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
You seem to think your so knowledgeable yet dont have a clue what UE3 stands for?

XBOX is a year ahead of PS3, we have been over this before, its not cheaper when you factor in all the value for money of the PS3. Since you've clearly never played a game like God of War, Socom, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Wipeout or Warhawk i dont see how you can decide that the 4 or so games youve listed all have better gameplay, when they all fall under one category (one that plays better on a PC anyway). And stop switching the subject, you said better graphics i pointed out KZ2 has better graphics, so now suddenly its about gameplay, where the 360 falls flat on its face again? Whats next, noise? reliability? Exclusive titles? Oh wait...

I know what Unreal Engine 3 is. I'm happy for you to be the geekier of us two though. I don't think I'm so knowledgeable, that's why I keep using external sources rather than my own word. So far you have used none, so I'm having to go on your word only whereas I have provided you with tonnes of stats, facts, evidence and opinion of those far more in the know than me or you.

I have played most of those games. Loved WipEout. I have mentioned it before but I will say it again. I loved PSOne. I loved PS2. PS2 shat all over Xbox original. There is no bias here from me.

Again I explained (using MetaCritic) that the general consensus is that Xbox360 has a stronger line up (ie better gameplay). MetaCritic takes reviews from all publications, all platforms. So it is entirely neutral, and covers all professional opinions of games.

Yes Killzone 2 has very good graphics, that doesn't change the FACTS I posted regarding Xbox360 generally being agreed to be graphically superior.

Noise? Fair enough, I never actually hear the Xbox360 running because I have the games running, but I can accept that it is the louder of the two. Reliability? You have got me there. It is less reliable. I have had no problems with mine but I've enough stories to know it IS less reliable. However everyone I know who've had problems have encountered fantastic support from Microsoft, a new console within 5 days in one case, along with 3 months free Xbox LIVE.
 




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