New teachers in huge debt when leaving Uni.

[Wilko]

Would that be the first week of her six week summer holiday or the first week of her two week easter holiday? Xmas holiday? half terms?

I get 23 days holiday a year. A teacher gets....


13 weeks I believe = 65 days!!!!

Your sister had the choice to become an accountant but decided to be a teacher instead. When she was making that decision I expect the deal teachers had was even worse than it is now!!

65 days NON CONTACT hours - That does not mean 65 days in bed watching Trisha. AS tedebear says, you may have 2 weeks non teaching time but you still have to go into school to produce a scheme of work or syllabus - so it is not really a holiday.

 

[tedebear]

ah well - we'll have to agree to disagree - I've never heard my sister complain for being hard done by - but I think what she does deserve is a little more pay...

and BTW she teaches children all through her summer holidays - kids with learning disabilities and ADD - she doesn't get paid for it - so I think she deserves her 2 weeks break every now and then.... but she's different I guess to your usual teacher...

 

[Simster]

Teaching is like any other job in that the job varies from role to role. Teaching the kids of ex-pat bankers with a reasonable salary and tons of holiday and generous pension seems like a recipe for a stress-free life if you ask me.

On the other hand, friends of the family are teachers at a rough school in Eastleigh where the kids have no respect - and nor do the parents. She's often had to tell pupils off and then found the parents waiting outside at the end of the lesson after the kid has texted a pack of lies to them during the lesson. As in most walks of life, if your "customers" don't appreciate the job you do, you're not likely to be motivated by the job.

 

[Lammy]

65 days NON CONTACT hours - That does not mean 65 days in bed watching Trisha. AS tedebear says, you may have 2 weeks non teaching time but you still have to go into school to produce a scheme of work or syllabus - so it is not really a holiday.

I'll address this point first.

What?

Are you saying that you have to go into school through all that holiday?

Or are you saying that you have 2 weeks non teaching time. Which still leaves a massive 55 days holiday.

Either way I don't understand your point?

 

[Lammy]

ah well - we'll have to agree to disagree - I've never heard my sister complain for being hard done by - but I think what she does deserve is a little more pay...

and BTW she teaches children all through her summer holidays - kids with learning disabilities and ADD - she doesn't get paid for it - so I think she deserves her 2 weeks break every now and then.... but she's different I guess to your usual teacher...

And that is fine. I'm not having a go at teachers. I think they do a cracking job. The point I'm making is that teachers don't have such a bad lot. And at the end of the day it's a life they've chosen. Also a lot of teachers have never had any other form of work and so get told by other teachers that they have a bad lot whether they thought they had or not.

Your sister obviuosly loves her job and is no doubt very good at it. When I first posted I wasn't actually aiming it at you but was speaking more generally.

Simster - Well put.

 

[Wilko]

I'll address this point first.

What?

Are you saying that you have to go into school through all that holiday?

Or are you saying that you have 2 weeks non teaching time. Which still leaves a massive 55 days holiday.

Either way I don't understand your point?

What I am saying is that just because the kids are not in during the holidays (6wks summer, 2wks xmas, 2wks easter) does not mean that the teachers are not at work.

Often you have loads of work to be carried out during the kids holiday time, I popped into work yesterday and I would say that 80% of the teaching staff were also in college yesterday, so hardly a holiday is it

 

[tedebear]

Also a lot of teachers have never had any other form of work and so get told by other teachers that they have a bad lot whether they thought they had or not.

ahhh now that I agree with !! but then there are those kind of people in any occupation!!

 

[Murray 17]

Same Supply teachers do little or no planning and get paid £50 a lesson

Where did you get this figure from?
I've just been quoted £100 a day from a supply agency, which works out to be less than half of that. And before you make the point that it is still a lot of money, remember that supply teachers can only work 39 weeks of the year because of the 13 weeks holiday that you keep quoting!
It is true to say that supply teachers generally do little planning but this is because most schools insist on them doing what the absent teacher was meant to be doing, but if you do sickness cover you often have to teach an unknown class all day at 30 minute's notice. This takes some doing!

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

All the teachers at my school (patched up fourskins) were either on strike or trying to get us to join the socialist party,happy days

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

All the teachers at my school (patched up fourskins) were either on strike or trying to get us to join the socialist party,happy days

 

[elbowpatches]

My main point is I hate it when people say what a cushy job it is, how we have 13 weeks a year holiday, start at 9 and finish at 3.30. All I was raising an awareness to was the fact that our life isn't like that, no-one sees the teachers go into the school during holidays or the boxes of marking we take home.

I love the job and am now getting paid only just more than my other half after 7 years in the profession and taking a promotion which has meant more work and pressure. Teaching is not different to many other jobs in effort or time or pay but the biggest plus is job satisfaction, which I think a lot of people envy.