New season=New Beginning

[nwgull]

There are a lot of new fans here with new views which are chequered I think you will agree

There are, but their opinions can be as valid as anyone else's.

On a slight tangent: I was listening to talk-sport the other day and a Man Utd fan called in to rant 'David Moyes is the worst manager I've ever seen at Utd, and I'm 18 years old'
Now THAT is a case where a fan's opinion due to his age and supporting experience can be called into question.

 

[British Bulldog]

Yeah lets just spend a large chunk of next seasons playing budget paying up the contracts of our coaching staff, then we can all look forward to another summer of turmoil with 11 players out of contract and a new manager who hasn't got a clue who to try and keep or release because he doesn't know the squad. Good idea.

 

[Neecha]

There are, but their opinions can be as valid as anyone else's.

On a slight tangent: I was listening to talk-sport the other day and a Man Utd fan called in to rant 'David Moyes is the worst manager I've ever seen at Utd, and I'm 18 years old'
Now THAT is a case where a fan's opinion due to his age and supporting experience can be called into question.

Absolutely agree it was more a flippant response to what I thought was a mock at my post, I should know better really

 

[Neecha]

Yeah lets just spend a large chunk of next seasons playing budget paying up the contracts of our coaching staff, then we can all look forward to another summer of turmoil with 11 players out of contract and a new manager who hasn't got a clue who to try and keep or release because he doesn't know the squad. Good idea.

Thanks for your response. Do you know the revenue created from a promotion to the premier league from the championship out of interest and if so would this cover contracts for our management team? The turmoil was only created because of the nature of the exit from the incumbent. The new management team (I was suggesting two of them) will already have this information and will be working on this now. (theoretically)

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Its critical we get some new players in who are hungry to do well for us

That's the crux of the matter for me. Too many of the current squad seem to lack the necessary motivation, a situation not helped by a management team who don't seem able to put some fire in their bellies. Not that they should have to.

 

[Neecha]

That's the crux of the matter for me. Too many of the current squad seem to lack the necessary motivation.

Thank fk someone who agrees on something ive said!! I am firm believer that the manager has 75% to do with this. Pains me to say it but look at Pulis at Palace. He has pretty much the same squad that played under Holloway and they were dead certs to go down not that long ago and now they are 3pts off mid table

 

[Brighton Mod]

I would ask if an established management duo would be happy with the players being selected by Burke and his gang?

You have it here, I feel the Director of Football is getting off lightly on here because we are bearing the fruits of his lack of planning and poor, poor selection of loan players. Other than Stephen Ward I feel that every loan player brought onto our payroll has not done what is expected of him and has cost us a lot of money. Where is the vision behind the scenes, the planning and forward thinking. We are always distracted by what can be termed 'vanilla' gains, the new training ground, best programmes, best pies and large crowds, but the real benchmark is the winning of games and the scoring of goals. I wonder what the DoF feels about the coaching?

 

[BensGrandad]

The OP obviously has a view on WHO he thinks should be manager so perhaps icf we knew who that would expand the discussion.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

You have it here, I feel the Director of Football is getting off lightly on here because we are bearing the fruits of his lack of planning and poor, poor selection of loan players. Other than Stephen Ward I feel that every loan player brought onto our payroll has not done what is expected of him and has cost us a lot of money. Where is the vision behind the scenes, the planning and forward thinking. We are always distracted by what can be termed 'vanilla' gains, the new training ground, best programmes, best pies and large crowds, but the real benchmark is the winning of games and the scoring of goals. I wonder what the DoF feels about the coaching?

While it is obviously crucial that the club as a whole is 'Premier League ready' both on and off the field, it does sometimes feel that progress on the playing side is considered as something of an afterthought by the club.

 

[Deadly Danson]

I think the Buckley and Orlandi situations are the most interesting. Both fantastic players and potentially game changing. Both perpetually injured. It's a massive gamble either way - get rid and watch them get fit elsewhere and set their new team on fire or keep and hope against hope that they can play more than 10 games each. I really don't know and I guess only the club doctor could tell you whether either is worth the risk. Same to an extent with Lua Lua. I guess it comes down to whether a probably lesser player like Conway who will start most games but may not be a game changer is worth more to us than Bucks or Orlandi? In FFP days I think on balance I'd be tempted to get rid of both.

 

[Neecha]

You have it here, I feel the Director of Football is getting off lightly on here because we are bearing the fruits of his lack of planning and poor, poor selection of loan players. Other than Stephen Ward I feel that every loan player brought onto our payroll has not done what is expected of him and has cost us a lot of money. Where is the vision behind the scenes, the planning and forward thinking. We are always distracted by what can be termed 'vanilla' gains, the new training ground, best programmes, best pies and large crowds, but the real benchmark is the winning of games and the scoring of goals. I wonder what the DoF feels about the coaching?

Really good points and in a way its how I feel too. I was thinking this morning that new old fans whoever that its expensive to watch these games so why would anyone realistically want to wait to be promoted so in a sense we want more and so the expectation has changed. There's a fine balance between growth and the future and here and now

 

[Neecha]

You have it here, I feel the Director of Football is getting off lightly on here because we are bearing the fruits of his lack of planning and poor, poor selection of loan players. Other than Stephen Ward I feel that every loan player brought onto our payroll has not done what is expected of him and has cost us a lot of money. Where is the vision behind the scenes, the planning and forward thinking. We are always distracted by what can be termed 'vanilla' gains, the new training ground, best programmes, best pies and large crowds, but the real benchmark is the winning of games and the scoring of goals. I wonder what the DoF feels about the coaching?

Its not been pretty especially the Jan window which tbh set the scene for where we are now, this said we have approx. £4 mill worth of players sitting there injured for the whole season so not an easy shout with FFP in mind (zzz) Gus cert had more influence directly with player recruitment and imo this is how it should be. You want the manager of the team on the phone to you selling the club and telling you that you are great and he wants you in the first team etc not the Head of Football Operations selling everything third party.

By the way , where are OG's contacts? Why hasn't he got players in from Barca or even Maccabi?

 

[Neecha]

If that's quick I would hate to see you harping on

Your quick to make a snide comment but why don't you try and construct an answer. Its easy to sit there and mock. What do you think OZ?

 

[ozseagull]

Your quick to make a snide comment but why don't you try and construct an answer. Its easy to sit there and mock. What do you think OZ?

It wasn't a snide comment. It was a light hearted joke at your opening line.

Bit over sensitive aren't you?

 

[BensGrandad]

)Are you suggesting that Obika and , werent Oscars choice exactly

 

[Neecha]

It wasn't a snide comment. It was a light hearted joke at your opening line.

Bit over sensitive aren't you?

Of course it was Oz, are you going to bring something positive to this bin fest?

 

[ozseagull]

Of course it was Oz, are you going to bring something positive to this bin fest?

Bore off. I see you had a go at the bloke who made the bone idol joke.

Again a light hearted joke and you start harping on about the goldstone.

Your football ideas are clueless and your humour is not existent so I'm not wasting any more time on you.

Enjoy the rest of your humourless day

 

[Neecha]

Bore off. I see you had a go at the bloke who made the bone idol joke.

Again a light hearted joke and you start harping on about the goldstone.

Your football ideas are clueless and your humour is not existent so I'm not wasting any more time on you.

Enjoy the rest of your humourless day

The difference is you read it how YOU want to read , the light hearted joke can be construed in two different ways pal. Anyway don't start harping on (you like that word don't you) with a reply to this princess Im not interested either.

 

[ozseagull]

The difference is you read it how YOU want to read , the light hearted joke can be construed in two different ways pal. Anyway don't start harping on (you like that word don't you) with a reply to this princess Im not interested either.

It's idiots like you that ruin this site. You carry on

 

[Neecha]

It's idiots like you that ruin this site. You carry on

the irony is you still cant explain why this post and my views are so clueless!