Mac Allister was excellent yesterday against Villa. Quietly doing what he does best.
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[Albion] New experiences for Caicedo
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Hotchilidog
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- Jan 24, 2009
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Caceido is a good footballer, but he made this move for financial reasons and not footballing ones, I think that is very telling. Chelsea have been a basket case for a couple of seasons now. An unsettled bloated squad basically compiled with the manager just having to put up with the brass making his job more confusing. Add in the very real pressure and expectation that comes with playing for that organisation and fanbase it is a world away from the cosy, family style atmosphere of Brighton. It's no surprise Caceido has had a poor start as has Colwill.
Moises should have gone to Liverpool. That would have been a better move for his career but greed got in the way. I do feel that class will out in the end, he really is a fantastic player and as long as Chelsea don't sack Poch too early things should have calm down there and he'll pick up some form.
Moises should have gone to Liverpool. That would have been a better move for his career but greed got in the way. I do feel that class will out in the end, he really is a fantastic player and as long as Chelsea don't sack Poch too early things should have calm down there and he'll pick up some form.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Normally when a club buys a £100m player they are going into a really good side which makes it easier to settle ie Bellingham, Chelsea are shit.
How on earth do you know how Caicedo made his decision. The truth is you have no idea so dont be so arrogant. I suspect it was all about living in London near friends, family etc. He is after all very young and Liverpool is culturally hugely different from London. Wish the guy luck and see what happens
His agent getting £10M from Chelsea probably also helped make Moises decision
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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I get the feeling that Moises is maybe a little bit naive and is very much led by what his agent tells him, We saw it with the Arsenal debacle and then choosing Chelsea, when Liverpool would probably have been the better choice.
Neville's Breakfast
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Yeah the museums and restaurants and stuff. We know.
7dialssouthpaw
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- Sep 10, 2022
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looks to me like Pochettino can't be arsed either!
Every single word of this.
Poch is a complete fraud. He's done pretty much nothing. Even in France he's won one title and one cup, with a club bankrolled by an oil rich state.
Your comments on Chelsea club culture are also likely to be very pertinent. If you sign players for megabucks on contracts lasting the best part of a decade, where's the motivation to be the one who turns the club into a major force?
It's one thing moving from Ecuador to Brighton but handling the culture shock of moving from the South East to Liverpool would be too much for most young men to handle.
andy_lee007uk
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Shamelessly stolen from a Facebook post.
Seagull58
In the Algarve
More likely that the scumbag agent convinced him because Chelsea paid him £10m. What friends and family does he have in London? Certainly not his 10 siblings because they are all on the verge of starvation back in Ecuador. As for his dear mum, she'll go anywhere she can get a supersized cheeseburger and fries, with extra cheese, extra burger and extra fries.
fly high
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I can't understand this media love in for Poch. Did OK with Southampton then Spurs but blow the CL final and following season they were crap and he was sacked (we helped him on his way). French league barely a two horse race and with all that oil money and some world class players he still didn't win much.
Couldn't manage the prima donnas at PSG so no chance with players on 8 year contracts
Also, let's be honest. Chelsea are thick. They spent, what, £90m on Cucurella and our coaching staff, then still came back and spend £135m on Caicedo and Sanchez.
If Caicedo fails, they'll be back with more money because? Yup, they're thick.
Mac Allister, Trossard, White, Bissouma are all proving to be successes because they went to clubs with a solid infrastructure and understanding of how football works. That Caicedo decided to turn down rejoining Mac Allister at Liverpool under a genuinely top class coach so that his mucky agent could get some extra coin proves him to be a lot less smart than I expected.
Oh, one more thing... Is Pochettino actually a brilliant manager? Good, sure, but brilliant? Everyone keeps banging on about him being a top, top class boss, but is he?
- Average at Espanyol but a tough first job;
- Good at Saints (although only there for a year);
- Good at Spurs (although they arguably should have won the league the Leicester year), hideous in his last 6 months and sacked 3.5 years into a 5 year deal;
- Did "okay" at PSG (although also didn't win the league in his 1st season)
- He has a good win-rate, but nothing special give he was also at PSG who are expected to win most matches
I was writing my comment on Poch whilst you were writing yours. I completely agreeStill, Pochettino is a top, top manager. Bound to make any player shine. He has won.......er.......one ligue 1 and one french cup.........with PSG
By comparison Brendan Rogers has won only, er.... 7 trophies with Celtic and one with Leicester...
Oh well. Think of the potential. Poch is only, 51 and Rogers is, er....50.
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
He’s definitely gone overboard on the just for men
This is a REALLY bad take, tbh. Getting a bang average Spurs team INTO a Champions League Final was a huge achievement, whatever happened when they got there. He had a CM of Winks and Sissoko FFS!
Machiavelli
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Agreed. Against the narrative on here, I think Poch did a really good job both at Southampton and Spurs. At Spurs he had to suffer virtually no incomings for several windows while all around rivals were spending big. I think he was an idiot to go to PSG because that was a vanity project for the petrogarchs who wanted 'galacticos'. Poch's problem is that Boehly has instigated another vanity project. It might turn out to be genius in five years time and everyone will be dishing out 8 year deals to 20yos but somehow it seems highly unlikely.
Louis MacNeice
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- Dec 7, 2015
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Yep and Liverpool being a well known cultural desert (irony alert for the hard of thinking) would have impacted so heavily on his agent, his own sense of familial obligation, various parasites...follow the money and you'll find the answer. Rocket science it is not.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice