New club ticket arrangements

[Lord Bracknell]

I agree, BG.

 

[BensGrandad]

You then move on to an efficient ticket system and as Lord B says a points system whereby every ticket purchased at home get a point so STH start with 26 points which would automatically give them an amount of priority. All away tickets purchased from the club get 1 point and all away tickets purchased on the gate get 1 popint if sent to the club for authorisation. The only problem from the clubs point of view is that they would have to get the other clubs to agree to give either a ticket or receipt as per a bus ticket, not costly or difficult to achieve.

The onus is then on the supporters to send their tickets to BHA for adding to their account. After a very short while people will get used to either taking an addressed envelope with them and posting it on the way home or doing it on a Sunday if they dont tough they miss out on that point..

 

[seagurn]

why cant the club just look on its computer as most tickets are now tracable towhos bought them say weve played 10 away games first sell tickets to those who have attended 7+ then 5+ and so on they must have a computer programe to do this sort of thing then the poeple who do go to away games get first dips surely?

 

[Icy Gull]

Can I just point out that the many many pages of problems/solutions and fights about priority on away tickets boils down to one game a year that we lose anyway. Is it worth the blood pressure problems it seems to cause?

 

[seagurn]

Can I just point out that the many many pages of problems/solutions and fights about priority on away tickets boils down to one game a year that we lose anyway. Is it worth the blood pressure problems it seems to cause?

i agree
we have always had this problem but there must be a solution

 

[Knotty]

You then move on to an efficient ticket system and as Lord B says a points system whereby every ticket purchased at home get a point so STH start with 26 points which would automatically give them an amount of priority. All away tickets purchased from the club get 1 point and all away tickets purchased on the gate get 1 popint if sent to the club for authorisation. The only problem from the clubs point of view is that they would have to get the other clubs to agree to give either a ticket or receipt as per a bus ticket, not costly or difficult to achieve.

The onus is then on the supporters to send their tickets to BHA for adding to their account. After a very short while people will get used to either taking an addressed envelope with them and posting it on the way home or doing it on a Sunday if they dont tough they miss out on that point..

Exactly - more administration but the only method that approaches fairness.

I am a STH (and have been for 30 years) but I agree that regular AMS supporters deserve as much priority as me. My problem is with the AMS members who have been to very few games over the years and, as with West ham, get equal priority. My partner has been to 3 games in 3 years. The possibilty existed that she could have got a WHU ticket and not me!

How could that have been justified?

 

[mona]

I'd also be interested to know why Ernest and Mona think that me criticising the Club in this way qualifies me as a "club lap dog".

I don't but Ernest's use of the phrase made me smile.
Personally, I'm a club stray mongrel!

 

[hitony]

Can I just point out that the many many pages of problems/solutions and fights about priority on away tickets boils down to one game a year that we lose anyway. Is it worth the blood pressure problems it seems to cause?

Of the 4 pages i have read about this thread, this post is without doubt the most sensible one in my opinion

 

[Uncle Buck]

I have said this before, but Englandfans has a vaguely fair system where a percentage of tickets are allocated on loyalty and the rest are balloted.

In and ideal world the AMS system should be something that is renewed every year.

Then if you have a season ticket you start the season on 23 points. If you are in the AMS and not a season ticket you get a point for each home ticket you buy (this should bring a bit more cash into the club if people want the points rather than buying up spare tickets on here etc).

For away games, you get 2 points per match you go to. Where it is only pay on the gate, you have a time period to send you ticket back to the Albion meaning you get your points.

From here where there is a big game, you have to apply for tickets. 70% of these are allocated to those with the most points. The remaining 30% are then balloted to those that applied by did not have enough points.

This way you are rewarding your most loyal fans, whilst giving others the chance to get tickets.

 

[Delusional Pengoon]

I live in Macclesfield so don't go to many matches at Withdean, but have seen about a dozen away games this season.

I support the Albion via Seagulls World, Heroes and Winners, Alive and Kicking, buying most of the tat from the club shop etc.

I didn't get a ticket for WHU but did get one for Orient, and I think I got the better of the deal in retrospect. If I miss a match due to excess demand it is tough, I don't feel comfortable to be honest that tickets are allocated on the basis of who can afford a ST, many can't, it does not make them lesser fans, as is being intimated by some here.

There are some good proposals here, but they all involve extra administration and costs, for approximately one match every 2/3 years. Surely this is excessive, when the club is losing money hand over fist each week.

When Falmer arrives, you would hope that the club would have some improved systems and admin, but until then, I am just happy to have a club to support.

 

[Storer68]

But you can't comapre orient with West 'am


My freind and I are both AMS members (and I am just reaching the end of a three year ST) and have wasted the past 35 years or so watching BHA home and away but we both sat in the home end because, as we both work in central London, it was easier to just turn up and pay on the day on a Tuesday night.

and before anyone enters into the uberfan better than you argumnent, we both went to the Millwall JPT game and so qualified for WestAm tix.

 

[The Wookiee]

Wasn't a sell out?! STH bought a couple of hundred tickets of Orient, at most.

AMS members are often accused of not being real fans or being gloryhunters, but it's the STH who proved they're not interested in away games (London it as close as it gets, remember) unless it's Premiership opposition.

No ifs or buts - away games should be a free for all now.

 

[Statto]

My problem is with the AMS members who have been to very few games over the years and, as with West ham, get equal priority. My partner has been to 3 games in 3 years. The possibilty existed that she could have got a WHU ticket and not me!

How could that have been justified?

Spot on!.

I was just gonna say that. As an away traveling STH mysellf I know ecxactly where you are coming from.

 

[The Wookiee]

What is a season ticket ?

I thought it entitled the purchaser to attend every home game of the season at a cheaper price than if somebody purchased individual tickets for each match.

Is that right ?

Now why should a STH have priority over anybody else for away tickets ?

IMO they shouldn't !!

 

[Knotty]

What is a season ticket ?

I thought it entitled the purchaser to attend every home game of the season at a cheaper price than if somebody purchased individual tickets for each match.

Is that right ?

Now why should a STH have priority over anybody else for away tickets ?

IMO they shouldn't !!

It may entitle them to that but it also commits the STH to paying well in advance for every home game of the season, whether they attend or not. Someone who buys tickets on an individual basis can pick and choose which games to attend and can do so just a short time before a game.

I agree that someone who pays for individual tickets to all or most matches is equally deserving but, as I said before, my problem is with those who get equal priority for being an AMS member and attending just two or three games. So far no-one on here has been able to justify that in any way.

I also do not see why there should be a differentiation between home and away support. If a system can be found to acknowledge support then the purchase of home or away tickets should be of equal value. Someone who supports the team at home is not superior or inferior to someone who travels away. In many cases they are one and the same.

I am a STH but attend just a few away games a season. Someone who attends all games, home and away, is more deserving than I, but surely I am more deserving than the AMS who goes to one 'special' away game a season.

 

[British Bulldog]

Imo, there should be a 5-year membership card.

Cost £50.

5,000 available.

On sale before Xmas, so it can be bought as a present. Only serious fans will buy, not gloryhunters.

Card holders then get priority for all away/cup games (or put in lottery if there are fewer tickets) and a discount at the club shop for five years.

Benefits:
1) Club gets £250,000 (minus costs) in the bank
2) Stops arguments over ticket allocation
3) Rewards current generation of fans... when we're at Falmer *cough*

I'd like to see a membership scheme where you pay to be a member pre-season and then you get reduced cost tickets for home games. That way the club gets extra funds in the summer and the more home matches a fan attends the cheaper it becomes over the course of a season.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

It's simple, surely?

AMS members should be allocated points for their away attendance. So if you're an away member and you do actually go to away games, then you accrue points, entitling you to priority tickets like STHs. Most games are all-ticket, so it would be easy to implement. And then the fair weather AMS members have less entitlement for big game tickets.

 

[zego]

STH get the certainty of a place at every home game, in a designated seat.

Non-STH AMS paid £10 for a number, allowing just the possibility of getting a ticket to away games, in a randomly allocated seat.

 

[Wozza]

Most games are all-ticket

Are they?

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Are they?

Most (I think!) of our away games this season have been all-ticket initially. Although a number have eventually become pay-on-the-day because of slow take-up.