New club ticket arrangements

[portlock seagull]

Following the west ham fiasco, Martin Perry said they club were going to review ticket arrangements given so many disgruntled STH lost out. Have they done this yet, in view of ST renewals being just around the corner?

 

[Beach Hut]

Yes see how the allocations were for Orient etc as STH had first priority.

STH renewals - I wonder when they will ask for the money

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Yes see how the allocations were for Orient etc as STH had first priority.

And very few STHs bothered to take advantage.

I hope the review takes account of the failure of the Orient experiment and that, in future, the priority system reverts to giving AMS members an equal shout.

 

[Icy Gull]

Yes see how the allocations were for Orient etc as STH had first priority.

STH renewals - I wonder when they will ask for the money

About 24 hours before we are told that without this money there is a serious doubt that we can enter into meaningful contract discussions with DW and the team for next season? Just a guess mind

 

[Beach Hut]

And very few STHs bothered to take advantage.

I hope the review takes account of the failure of the Orient experiment and that, in future, the priority system reverts to giving AMS members an equal shout.

Yes for a night game when loads go................

 

[BensGrandad]

And very few STHs bothered to take advantage.

I hope the review takes account of the failure of the Orient experiment and that, in future, the priority system reverts to giving AMS members an equal shout.

Do you have something against STH as you continually seem to try to demean them.

It was obvious that for a midweek game in East London you would not get as many requests for tickets as for a Saturday game against a Premiership side their is no comparison and idiot could see that, and I dont class you as an idiot. Because a Tuesday night game was not a sell out that does not mean that the scheme is a failure and should be scrapped.

As has been said before many times AMS members offer no financial benefit to the club whatsoever. In most cases the people who travel to away matches are staunch fans so their purchasses in the Club Shop wouldnt be affected either way.

 

[portlock seagull]

Well said that man!

 

[Another Berkshire Seagull]

I agree there is no way you can compare Leyton Orient with the West Ham game.

Otherwise the club have to take into account were there as many applications (total) for Leyton Orient as West Ham. I somehow don't think so...

Personally I will be sending my renewal for my season ticket stating the club may only cash my money if they can guarantee STH's priority to away matches. I suggest other STH's do the same thing and we'll see if the club agrees to a permenant change in their policy to support those who put their money where their mouths are when it comes to supporting the club.

 

[Wozza]

Because a Tuesday night game was not a sell out that does not mean that the scheme is a failure and should be scrapped.

Wasn't a sell out?! STH bought a couple of hundred tickets of Orient, at most.

AMS members are often accused of not being real fans or being gloryhunters, but it's the STH who proved they're not interested in away games (London it as close as it gets, remember) unless it's Premiership opposition.

No ifs or buts - away games should be a free for all now.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

It is patently obvious from the Orient 'experiment' that there are a large number of big game charlie season ticket holders, who normally have no intention of travelling away to support the Albion, even when it is only an hour and a half train ride.

The 50/50 split has it right, as it rewards the STH for their cash injection, whilst giving the regular home and away non STH fans an even chance of getting to the big game.

Hopefully Perry will review the system and conclude, it works.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Do you have something against STH as you continually seem to try to demean them.

No I don't. I am one.

But when I go to away games, I very often want to go in a party of people that is a mix of AMS members and STHs. Ticketing arrangements that PREVENT us from buying tickets at the same time can often prevent us from sitting together.

It wasn't an issue at Orient - where the tickets were for "unreserved seating" - but it can be for any game where people are expected to sit in their allocated seats.

Equal priority for AMS members and STHs avoids the problem. That's why it's the solution.

 

[British Bulldog]

I agree with LB on this one allthough I feel the AMS should be renewable every season.

 

[Tooting Gull]

I really don't see why this has proved so hard for us to get right, there are dozens of other clubs in the same boat.

Big away game:

STHs first dibs (a few days)

AMS members next dibs (2/3 days)

Open sale thereafter.

If that means you are a regular away fan and don't get a ticket, that is a) unlikely and b) tough, and maybe you should get a ST. But that is fairer than a STH not getting a ticket for Spurs/West Ham. Easy. If you want to create any new categories, slot them in accordingly. And the above system probably also requires a very strict 1/2 per person limit, meaning there will be more likelihood of tickets being left over.

 

[jonny.rainbow]

I really don't see why this has proved so hard for us to get right, there are dozens of other clubs in the same boat.

Big away game:

STHs first dibs (a few days)

AMS members next dibs (2/3 days)

Open sale thereafter.

If that means you are a regular away fan and don't get a ticket, that is a) unlikely and b) tough, and maybe you should get a ST. But that is fairer than a STH not getting a ticket for Spurs/West Ham. Easy. If you want to create any new categories, slot them in accordingly.

I would argue that giving 4,500 STH first dibs would prevent regular away fans from getting tickets to the big games as our allocation is often less than that.

Also not everyone can afford, or for convenience sake, buy a Season Ticket.

Just because other clubs do it that way, doesn't mean it's the best system for us.

 

[pasty]

I feel the AMS should be renewable every season.

Absolutely correct. At least that would go some way to preventing those that registered specifically for the Play Off final and have not been since from getting Spurs/West Ham etc tickets.

 

[Black N Tan]

Is there no way the club can introduce an away season ticket for about £500, the same as I pay for my one at the Withdean. Limit this to 500 or 1000 members so as to cover clubs who only allow a small away support and always guarentee these people tickets for away games, also giving them first choice on big cup games. Very few clubs in this division charge as much as we do so the club can make a profit. Obviously away season ticket holders will have to give permission for the club to keep the profits as overcharging is classified as touting. If you really do go to all the away games this should be of huge benifit, you will get the tickets you deserve for the big games.

 

[Horsham Gull]

i personally would be quite happy to pay my £10 every season to be an away member so i can follow the albion and make a small contribution to the club.

 

[Tooting Gull]

But there is no perfect solution. There is no system that exists, or ever will exist, to provide everything from 1,000 to 6,000 away tickets depending on the game to an assortment of STHs, AMS members, regular casual home and away fans, and occasional fans in a way that keeps everybody happy. So all you can do is step back, look at it, and ensure the 'least unfair' policy. And we are not so special on this, the principles are exactly the same for other clubs who have arrived at their policy via the same tortuous route.

BTW, I agree with the AMS renewal, even though it would be a hassle to me personally. If you can't be bothered to renew, you have less right to a ticket.

 

[mona]

[BI hope the review takes account of the failure of the Orient experiment and that, in future, the priority system reverts to giving AMS members an equal shout. [/B]

As there are 24,000 AMS and 4,200 STH your system is blatantly unfair.
If the Orient experiment was a failure, what were the Spurs and West Ham fiascos? At those games people who had hardly ever watched the Albion got precedence over regular away fans.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I feel the AMS should be renewable every season.

What an excellent idea