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Exactly, I don’t remember a bidding war breaking out for his servicesIf it was that much of a steal there would have been some higher offers from elsewhere…….
Exactly, I don’t remember a bidding war breaking out for his servicesIf it was that much of a steal there would have been some higher offers from elsewhere…….
I bet those people haven’t posted full details on here and I bet those people’s phone number isn’t known by Paul Barber.I'm not suggesting to be more ITK than he is. I suggest none of us are ITK.
Two people with no horse in the race, afaik both living as much in Sussex (or at least England) as @Bozza does, have gone through the effort of sending me PMs (one here and one on Facebook) telling me otherwise. PM here said "what Bozza has heard/posted isn’t what I’ve heard", and PM on Facebook explained in some depth that the club has been trying to convince Billy to stay all summer but denying him this move (that Napoli has been pushing very hard) wouldn't be fair as they couldn't guarantee he would be a starter.
Meaning I have people claiming to be ITK telling me opposite stuff from what Bozza, also claiming to be ITK, said.
Its almost as if most town gossip is utter horseshit.
I'd understand the club accepting this if he had no realistic chance of getting off the bench but he was already starting for us just two games in. So it can only be that we did want to sell imo and just seems weird to spend a huge amount of money and then leave ourselves vulnerable, especially after the last half of last season.And I suspect he doesn't want the role of ok we are short, now where's dependable Billy.
You're saying Paul Barber called @Bozza to tell him that the club wanted to get rid of Billy Gilmour? Or am I misunderstanding it?I bet those people haven’t posted full details on here and I bet those people’s phone number isn’t known by Paul Barber.
One or two each?For those going on and on about Gilmour not scoring goals, how many do you expect from Wieffer and Baleba this season and should they be sold next summer if they don't score a couple? Or is this specific for Billy?
I think if you’re trying to unpack why a player didn’t quite make it as a first choice starter, you do consider the factors that perhaps would go against the player, goals and assists being one area for WBG that he lacked in, perhaps physicality another, and maybe technical things only the manager/coaches pick up on.For those going on and on about Gilmour not scoring goals, how many do you expect from Wieffer and Baleba this season and should they be sold next summer if they don't score a couple? Or is this specific for Billy?
I suspect Gilmore wanted to go. After all at no point was Napoli told he wasn't for sale, he's gone for more playing time, decent food, culture and weather. From his perspective what's not to likeI'd understand the club accepting this if he had no realistic chance of getting off the bench but he was already starting for us just two games in. So it can only be that we did want to sell imo and just seems weird to spend a huge amount of money and then leave ourselves vulnerable, especially after the last half of last season.
We expect to buy players at local prices and then get pissed that we can't sell back PL prices, this is simply not sustainable.
Agree. Great squad player but seems he wants to be more than that Interesting to see if he's a first choice starter at Napoli.I think if you’re trying to unpack why a player didn’t quite make it as a first choice starter, you do consider the factors that perhaps would go against the player, goals and assists being one area for WBG that he lacked in, perhaps physicality another, and maybe technical things only the manager/coaches pick up on.
Bissouma or Caicedo didn’t score many or create many assists, but they excelled in other areas of their game. I thought WBG was very good at times, very good rhythm of passing, but I’m not sure I’d describe him as excelling in any particular area.
Not sure anyone ‘happily’ saw MacA, Biss and Caicedo off, just the inevitably of them moving on the bigger clubs.Why do I feel more than usually peeved about Billy Gilmour going? I couldn’t get to sleep last night through feeling cross about it. One could see MacAllister and Bissouma off quite happily even though they were heroes, Caicedo, Cucurellaand Sanchez were all d1ckheads, but Billy was a hero and a genuine bloke.
Gutted to see him go, but can’t blame him wanting to play for a coach like Conte who seemingly really wanted him. All the best!
I disagree with it and thought Billy was a massive game changer, in the sense that he had a big part in turning a poor functioning midfield from the Everton game into a strength in the Manchester United game. Billy and Milner standing firm against their crowded central midfield is a big fat game changer compared to if they run us over - its not all about "perfect-on-a-plate assists". Keeping Bruno Fernandes away from that ball is equally important.One or two each?
The difference for me is that they’ll both eventually be required to take on a lot more defensive responsibilities. Huge tackles in midfield or centre defence. Making sure we have a proper aerial defence to help the centre backs with crosses and at set-pieces which just isn’t there with WBG and wasn’t needed under RDZ’s laissez-faire
defending philosophy.
@Hotchilidog made the perfect point in regards to Gilmour. He is not a game changer. He won’t create the perfect on-a-plate assist. He won’t score you a shed load of goals from midfield. He won’t make that decisive defensive header at a corner or brilliant tackle or interception in midfield to break up play. Hürzeler is all about game changers. And now Gilmour is all about Napoli where I’ll be following him and supporting the next stage of his career for a manager who clearly has a defined role for his limited but brilliant skill set.
You are indeed wrong yet again on this thread.You're saying Paul Barber called @Bozza to tell him that the club wanted to get rid of Billy Gilmour? Or am I misunderstanding it?
You're missing the player's wishes from your conclusionI'd understand the club accepting this if he had no realistic chance of getting off the bench but he was already starting for us just two games in. So it can only be that we did want to sell imo and just seems weird to spend a huge amount of money and then leave ourselves vulnerable, especially after the last half of last season.
Interesting take to apply game changer from one game to another. We actually lost the midfield battle a bit against MU and we’re fortunate not to go 1-2. The game changer was Baleba for Milner who tired, and Baleba put us massively on the front foot with his physicality and positivity.I disagree with it and thought Billy was a massive game changer, in the sense that he had a big part in turning a poor functioning midfield from the Everton game into a strength in the Manchester United game. Billy and Milner standing firm against their crowded central midfield is a big fat game changer compared to if they run us over - its not all about "perfect-on-a-plate assists". Keeping Bruno Fernandes away from that ball is equally important.
Try the thread title troll..still I should have guessed you’d want to spread your manic dislike of Hinshelwood to most threadsYou need to read the thread closer you Muppet.
This was about Hinshelwood.