Naomi upset, but ....is it really racism?

[NMH]

It's fine by me as long as she can prove her outrage to this vile racism in the 80s and 90s

Good one!

Thinking about it from that pov, I don't think I'd mind too much (even as a celeb) if I was compared with a Milky Bar. Not unless it was used with some negative connotation involved.

She actually IS getting free publicity from the 'Naomi' ad that wouldn't do her career any harm.
Having worked in casting in Hollyweird, including for ads, I can't imagine many clients now thinking "I know, let's get Naomi Campbell for our advertising campaign - she's a popular model with the public and will represent our product well"

Having considered of course whether the chocolate ad has exploited her name - I believe they have, but not in a manner she can do much about (and certainly not racist either imo). She would have done a LOT better to have laughed about it and made herself available for confectionery advertisers. Cadbury would JUMP to start paying her if she threatened to advertise for ANOTHER company, e.g; "THIS Naomi prefers Godiva, for the discerning diva".

 

[Surrey_Albion]

No it is only racist for the people who think like that, It cleary says "THERE IS A NEW DIVA IN TOWN" it at no point mentions the colour of the chocolate or the Person involved!!!
The word Diva in this contaxt means the same as a PRIME DONNA which Naomi defently is!! so in short the only people I can see being racist is those who see a black ladies name and chocolate in the same sentence and assume they mean colour of skin, shame on you

 

[Everest]

Just thought, Cadbury Bliss - milk chocolate with a white inside. Does that mean that Campball is dark on the outside but has a longing to be white?

Doesn't matter now anyway, Cadbury: Cadbury Bliss Ad

 

[Biscuit]

I've actually been called a 'milky bar' by a black kid on a train when I asked him to use his headphones. He called me other things as well but it was 'milky bar' that stood out for me. I found it funny.

I really don't see how chocolate can be seen as racist but I guess it's all in the context of what's being said. Cadbury's were clearly calling the chocolate 'Diva-esq' that has no relation to race what so ever and I think Naomi Campbell is being way over sensitive, and actually as a result, not doing her cause any good in the long run.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

I'm not black but i'd imagine lynching's probably the worst sort of racism. Then perhaps racist attacks, then probably police victimisation.
I'd imagine the chocolate advert is below saying 'Well done for Obama" or having their afros played with by strangers on the badness of racism scale as well

My point is (and the responses to this thread would seem to indicate some truth in it) is that any blockhead can spot lynching as being racist but the casual, un-noticed, almost okay racism is extremely unpleasant as it shows a much wider section of society to be racist not just the lynchers/EDL/coppers etc.

 

[xenophon]

From the comments on that there article:

"Campbell is nothing more than wanting to get attention. This woman have no interest in black people. She treats people worst she would like to be treated. For example, she was arrested in New York City and taken to court with her abusive behavior against two other women. I am a black man and I know that many of us black men do refer to our black women as chocolate and I am sure so do many other black men. Campbell thinks she is white and just look at her behavior to black people as compare to being with white people. Don't be blind just because she is a black woman. Its time to call a spade a spade"

Whoops-a-daisy!!

(or possibly a Freudian slip?)

 

[little al]

If they had offered to pay her to use her face, using the same slogan, she would have taken the money.

 

[Biscuit]

My point is (and the responses to this thread would seem to indicate some truth in it) is that any blockhead can spot lynching as being racist but the casual, un-noticed, almost okay racism is extremely unpleasant as it shows a much wider section of society to be racist not just the lynchers/EDL/coppers etc.

I accept that, but please point out to me what in that advert is racist? I must be one of these secret biggots that just can't see it! Maybe it's like one of the those puzzles that you just have to stare at for ages?

 

[Neil]

She will be moaning about Campbells brown soups next

 

[Jimbo.GRFC]

It doesn't!
So she couldn't do shit about it anyway, legally (though don't count a lawsuit out, as she might be getting pitched from thousands of lawyers who think they'd win it on the premise of sufficient implication).

Racism though

quote; Yesterday Campbell revealed she is considering "every option available" after Cadbury, owned by the US giant Kraft, refused to pull the ad campaign, which ran in newspapers last week: "I am shocked. It's upsetting to be described as chocolate, not just for me, but for all black women and black people. I do not find any humour in this. It is insulting and hurtful." unquote

Hasn't she just contradicted herself with that statement above. She refers to herself and sisters as Black when clearly the chocolate in question is "Brown". She gets on my tits the feckin freeloader

 

[Marshy]

Who cares, someone post some naked pictures of her FIT body

 

[piersa]

So easy to play the race card because so many pc people buy into it. Her response to the ad is just a premis to a legal challenge. She is after money, no doubt about it. She walks up and down a walkway to make a living and crows about how much charity work she is invilved in. I would not give her the steam off my piss. Vile woman.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

I accept that, but please point out to me what in that advert is racist? I must be one of these secret biggots that just can't see it! Maybe it's like one of the those puzzles that you just have to stare at for ages?

Because of all the diva's in the world they picked a brown skinned one for a chocolate ad and my guess is that some black people (not just Naomi)don't like that association. At the very least it calls into question Cadbury's ad agency if there was no-one there who thought some people might find it a tad insensitive.

 

[User removed 4]

Because of all the diva's in the world they picked a brown skinned one for a chocolate ad and my guess is that some black people (not just Naomi)don't like that association. At the very least it calls into question Cadbury's ad agency if there was no-one there who thought some people might find it a tad insensitive.

And how many of those white skinned models have the same sort of reputation as naomi campbell for obnoxious behaviour and diva like strops?

 

[Southwick_Seagull]

Gets in the news and everyone is talking about Naomi Campbell and Cadburys. Free advertising for both. Marketing campaign a success. Job done.

 

[Billy the Fish]

some black people (not just Naomi)don't like that association.

In which case they need to remove the rather large chip from their shoulder.

People on this planet have skin that is the same or similar colour as chocolate. Why are we not allowed to make that comparison? It's not derogatory, it's just a fact.

 

[Cian]

Because of all the diva's in the world they picked a brown skinned one for a chocolate ad and my guess is that some black people (not just Naomi)don't like that association. At the very least it calls into question Cadbury's ad agency if there was no-one there who thought some people might find it a tad insensitive.

What other British divas are there with anywhere close to the mobile-flingers reputation?

 

[keaton]

Because of all the diva's in the world they picked a brown skinned one for a chocolate ad and my guess is that some black people (not just Naomi)don't like that association. At the very least it calls into question Cadbury's ad agency if there was no-one there who thought some people might find it a tad insensitive.

You say of all the diva's but, if you said Diva to most people i'd imagine they'd think of Naomi Campbell. Or possibly J-Lo (but you'd have the same problem) and Mariah Carey (possibly ditto) But they're both American and i'd say less well known in the UK than her. Whether that's too do with press depiction of powerful black women is another argument, but I would think she's the most famous diva in the UK

 

[Biscuit]

In which case they need to remove the rather large chocolate chip from their shoulder.

Fixed that for you.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

And how many of those white skinned models have the same sort of reputation as naomi campbell for obnoxious behaviour and diva like strops?

I don't know (it'd not a subject that interests me much) but it doesn't have to be a model.