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Muslim loses appeal over jilbab



bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
WATFORD O said:
I would eat a dog or a cat. I dont have a problem with that.

Funny you should say that. Quite a few Hindus don't like the fact that we eat beef and probably an even larger number of Muslems and Jews don't think too highly of Christians enjoying bacon butties.
 




e77

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May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
bhaexpress said:
Funny you should say that. Quite a few Hindus don't like the fact that we eat beef and probably an even larger number of Muslems and Jews don't think too highly of Christians enjoying bacon butties.

I don't follow any religion so I can eat any meat and won't object to anyone else eating it.

Atheism - The only way forward for meat loving fat boys like me.
 


looney

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Jul 7, 2003
15,652
Didn't she get legal support from al-muhajaroon, those kooky pseudo terrorist lovers that Straw should have banned yonks ago.



Its simple to me, if you come to this country you should assimilate, screw multiculturalism.

If your so weak and trecherous that you want our culture destroyed please be honest about it and if your a politician make yourself known so you can be booted out of office before the friggin BNP get in and start booting all sorts of people out.



:angry: :angry: :angry:
 




e77

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May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
looney said:
Didn't she get legal support from al-muhajaroon, those kooky pseudo terrorist lovers that Straw should have banned yonks ago.



Its simple to me, if you come to this country you should assimilate, screw multiculturalism.

If your so weak and trecherous that you want our culture destroyed please be honest about it and if your a politician make yourself known so you can be booted out of office before the friggin BNP get in and start booting all sorts of people out.



:angry: :angry: :angry:

So you criticise people for being intolerant to other cultures then you state you are intolerant to other cultures?
 




looney

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Jul 7, 2003
15,652
ben andrews' girlfriend said:
She's a British national

Which begs the question, why hasn't she been assimilated? Why are or where her [parents allowed to settle here if they are so contemptuos of our ways? Why haven't they been expelled?

Oh and i would like proof of that cos most hold dual nationality.
 


Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
looney said:
Which begs the question, why hasn't she been assimilated? Why are or where her [parents allowed to settle here if they are so contemptuos of our ways? Why haven't they been expelled?

Oh and i would like proof of that cos most hold dual nationality.

What are you talking about?
 


e77

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May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
looney said:
Which begs the question, why hasn't she been assimilated? Why are or where her [parents allowed to settle here if they are so contemptuos of our ways? Why haven't they been expelled?

Oh and i would like proof of that cos most hold dual nationality.

They are probably wary of nasty little Englanders like you.
 




looney

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Jul 7, 2003
15,652
e77 said:
So you criticise people for being intolerant to other cultures then you state you are intolerant to other cultures?

Oh no i like other cultures in other countries, I just dont want to live under other cultures in this country.


What are you talking about?

Something way over your head obviously BAG.
 


looney

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Jul 7, 2003
15,652
e77 said:
They are probably wary of nasty little Englanders like you.

Oh nice try stupid. So what you are saying is a bunch of leftist accademics in their Ivory towers and their lackies can reshape the country in anyway they like and anyone who questions it is some raging bigot?

You dont do democracy do you?
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
I think this girl should be applauded for the stand that she took, all she wanted was the right to dress smartly and modestly at school, albeit she used the words of the Koran in her favour and perhaps not as they were intented to be interpreted. I was wondering if the story would have been treated differently by the press if she had been a white schoolgirl campaigning for the right to wear a mini-skirt to school, without the religious implications, I think not.
 




Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
looney said:
Oh no i like other cultures in other countries, I just dont want to live under other cultures in this country.


What are you talking about?

Something way over your head obviously BAG.

Not really, you're just talking bollocks
 


Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
Gully said:
I think this girl should be applauded for the stand that she took, all she wanted was the right to dress smartly and modestly at school, albeit she used the words of the Koran in her favour and perhaps not as they were intented to be interpreted. I was wondering if the story would have been treated differently by the press if she had been a white schoolgirl campaigning for the right to wear a mini-skirt to school, without the religious implications, I think not.

It would have been the same outcome, just chucked out quicker
 


e77

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May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
looney said:
Oh no i like other cultures in other countries, I just dont want to live under other cultures in this country.


We have a gene pool that is largely derived from Romans and Vikings and a part-German monarchy.

I suggest the horse may have bolted.
 




Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
Fair comment, I just thought that these days women are free to dress in pretty much any way they wish, no matter how provocative that may be, it is a shame that a young woman who wanted to dress in the most modest way imaginable was not afforded the freedom to do so. I do understand that schools set a dress code, but surely that is more to ensure that a minimum standard is met and the kids don't turn up looking like they have escaped from a tarts and vicars party. What would the schools' stance have been if the lads decided to turn up in suits, which is surely the smartest way a man can dress.
 


e77

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May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
looney said:
Oh nice try stupid. So what you are saying is a bunch of leftist accademics in their Ivory towers and their lackies can reshape the country in anyway they like and anyone who questions it is some raging bigot?

You dont do democracy do you?

I do. Every four years. Last time round the far right had no MPs.

I agree, Democracy works.
 




chip

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Jul 7, 2003
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Glorious Goodwood
Gully said:
Fair comment, I just thought that these days women are free to dress in pretty much any way they wish, no matter how provocative that may be, it is a shame that a young woman who wanted to dress in the most modest way imaginable was not afforded the freedom to do so. I do understand that schools set a dress code, but surely that is more to ensure that a minimum standard is met and the kids don't turn up looking like they have escaped from a tarts and vicars party. What would the schools' stance have been if the lads decided to turn up in suits, which is surely the smartest way a man can dress.

I understand what you are saying but have a different take on this. Had she won, how many other young girls/women would then have been in a position whereby they where effectively forced to dress in such a conservative way. There were a large number of girls in that school who did not want the dress code changed to suit that girl as they then would have faced pressure to dress the same way as a social norm would have been altered. Had she won, those girls rights would have been compromised.

I remember the original case and the girl came accross as a smirking little shit stirer who seemed very pleased to upset the apple cart at a school that had gone out of its way to be accomodating. How about if CofE or Catholic schools insisted that there should be no mixed fabrics in uniforms as Leviticus tells us? Not very practical or worthwhile.
 




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enigma

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looney said:
Oh no i like other cultures in other countries, I just dont want to live under other cultures in this country.


What are you talking about?

Something way over your head obviously BAG.

Good argument there Looney, she asks you for an explanation of your views and all you can come up with is that patronising shit.

I am glad most people in England arent like you, it would be like Nazi Germany (albeit more geeky).

One of the great things about this country, and in particular London, is the mix of cultures we have. Its a shame you cant see that.
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
Chip, I see your point, I take it that you mean girls from the muslim faith being forced to dress as modestly as she did, their parents telling them that if it is good enough for one girl then they should abide by the standards she has set. I cannot see non-muslim parents making their children go to school dressed like that.

A comment I made on here when this originally blew up was that surely the schools should respect the wishes of children from differing faiths to wear their traditional dress (jilbab, headscarf, turban, skull-cap) but insist that they are worn in school colours. This would help members of communities who are so often criticised for being outside mainstream British culture to integrate without losing their own identity.

I also agree with enigma, multi-culturalism is something to be cherished, I would far rather live in a country with than without it.
 


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