the hitman
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to state my opinion if thats ok? Is that not what a football forum is for?
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Murray cannot take penaltys
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to state my opinion if thats ok? Is that not what a football forum is for?
Yes indeed it is but why do you bring it up so much? we have all heard you opinion now you dont have to bring it up again and again.
the hitman
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Well it is the same as people constantly praising him and saying he will get 20+ goals this season, they keep giving there opinion, so i keep giving mine.
The difference is they are supporting the player where as you are putting him down.
At times Murray looks head and shoulders above the rest of the players at this level, and against better sides like Man City and Villa he's looked more than capable. Its just his consistency thats the problem, and he doesn't seem to be interested all the time.
Withdean Wanderer
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Agreed.
Mendoza
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He normally puts them down the middle, for once he didn't today but he didn't really kick it that hard and put it at an easy height for the goalie
A lot of people I stood with were not confident in him scoring
A lot of people I stood with were not confident in him scoring
Scotty Mac
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gus probably told him to miss
Dick Knights Mumm
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Away at Leeds when he scored - he appeared to scuff it.
He does not look a natural penalty taker to me. I suspect there must be someone better at the club.
He does not look a natural penalty taker to me. I suspect there must be someone better at the club.
I'd go further, he doesnt seem a natural striker of the ball overall, which sounds mad given he is a striker. The amount of shots he scuffs or mishits is ridiculous. Shinned a couple tonight and missed a pen. I love the man, dont get me wrong, but he doesnt really look like scoring at the moment.
As for Barnes' miss
Is it 50% or is it 50% out of the last six kicks?
Also, your 10% figure is crap. According to Michael Bar-Elia in "Penalty kicks in soccer: an empirical analysis of shooting strategies and goalkeepers preferences", a major study of this, the success rate for professional footballers in Italy, UK and Germany ranges betweem 75 and 85%. PremierSoccer stats backs this up with their study of the Premier league in 2002. They also suggest that 25% of penalties fail.
Or put it another way, many professional footballers have a miss rate of 25%. Do you actually know how many kicks Murray has taken in his career and how many he has missed? My guess is that he'll be as good or bad as anyone else.
Interestingly, other studies indicate that younger players are more accurate than older ones.
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That's right. The keeper always gets a hand to it. Your are a miserable sod aren't you.
Well i at least expect us to play with some passion and desire when i pay money to see us.
Murrays took about 5/6 penalties for us i think.
Yeovil - Keeper basically pushed it in.
Millwall - Saved
Gillingham - Saved
Tonight - Saved
Tranmere- Scored
Leeds - Scored
Withdean Wanderer
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And he didn't clap the fans...
I have no empirical evidence for this but I always expect Murray to miss penalties. He does not strike the ball hard enough to beat the 'keeper on a regular basis. He always gives them a chance to save it, if they go the right way. Time for a new penalty taker in my opinion.
That's 1 in 2, Murray is a 1 in 2 player after all!