MPs are expected to debate a bill that if passed would see the UK quit the EU.

[goldstone]

Surely there are better ways to spend £65 billion a year? Reduced taxes would my first suggestion.

More than ever I believe we should be out of the EU and be quick about it.

Would love someone to justify exactly what benefits we get for such a massive sum.

All I can see is duplication of government, duplication of legal systems, duplication of bureaucracy, duplication of laws, massive corruption, unnecessary expenditure on grandiose EU schemes, etc., etc.

In fact I'm not sure I can come up with one single positive reason for continued membership.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Surely there are better ways to spend £65 billion a year? Reduced taxes would my first suggestion.

More than ever I believe we should be out of the EU and be quick about it.

Would love someone to justify exactly what benefits we get for such a massive sum.

All I can see is duplication of government, duplication of legal systems, duplication of bureaucracy, duplication of laws, massive corruption, unnecessary expenditure on grandiose EU schemes, etc., etc.

In fact I'm not sure I can come up with one single positive reason for continued membership.

The EU is bulls&&t. They say it will effect trade, well I don't believe that for a second. Companies are still going to buy from the UK and vice versa. Nobody questions someones membership of EU when making a purchase do they?

And what about people like me and you, how is this going to effect us. They will still check our passports like they do now, nothing will change.

But what has annoyed me most is being governed by some idiots. It's got to stop. Has Greece actually got better, no it has not. Has Spain got better, no it has not. The sooner we get out the better.

 

[Simster]

Seeing as you're one of thickest people on here, this comes as no surprise.

 

[Titus]

Seeing as you're one of thickest people on here, this comes as no surprise.

Are you too thick to quote, so we know to whom you are alluding?

 

[Simster]

Nice thought

Yes, Titus, I am.

 

[goldstone]

Are you too thick to quote, so we know to whom you are alluding?

Was wondering the same thing myself. It's either me, or the second poster. As I don't know the OP I am assuming he is referring to the 2nd poster. It's quite a sweeping statement, whoever he is referring to.

 

[goldstone]

The ability to live and get a job anywhere in the EU without having to get visas and all that?

And to date has that been of a greater benefit to EU chaps and chapesses coming here to live and work (or not work), or to Brits moving the other way? I would hazard a guess that there has been more immigration to the UK from the EU. So lots of Poles and others coming here and taking jobs from the British thus giving the lazy Brits on welfare even more excuses to sit at home on their fat arses.

 

[Joe Gatting's Dad]

Great idea to leave - no more Eastern Europeans taking low paid jobs which could usefully get rid of our £2.5m unemployed.

 

[Bold Seagull]

And to date has that been of a greater benefit to EU chaps and chapesses coming here to live and work (or not work), or to Brits moving the other way? I would hazard a guess that there has been more immigration to the UK from the EU. So lots of Poles and others coming here and taking jobs from the British thus giving the lazy Brits on welfare even more excuses to sit at home on their fat arses.

Any other decent stories in the daily mail today? Hopefully my fish and chips will be wrapped in it later!

 

[Brovion]

In all seriousness, what Bill is this?

 

[Kumquat]

In all seriousness, what Bill is this?

Oddie.

 

[Marxo]

In order to join the "Common Market' we had to severely cut trade with commonwealth countries, so we burned many bridges then. Goods traded between EU and non-EU countries are subject to customs duties. So if he U.K. leaves the E.U. British companies will be at a disadvantage if they trade with E.U. countries.

 

[Don Quixote]

I am sure the economists and politicians know a lot more about all of this than we do so let's let them sort it out and forget about it.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

It's not just about migration.

Toyota's vehicle plant in Derbyshire, with an annual production capacity of 285,000 vehicles, and 4,300 employees, manufactures Auris and Avensis models for the European market. Over 2.2 million vehicles have been made since production at the plant began in 1992.

Where would they move it to, if the UK left the EU?

 

[Storer 68]

In order to join the "Common Market' we had to severely cut trade with commonwealth countries, so we burned many bridges then. Goods traded between EU and non-EU countries are subject to customs duties. So if he U.K. leaves the E.U. British companies will be at a disadvantage if they trade with E.U. countries.

Bollocks.
The Commonwealth gives preferential trade access to its member countries, including the UK. Commonwealth countries are also part of several regional trade groups, including:
- the North American Free Trade Agreement
- Africa, Caribbean and Pacific countries, which have a trade and aid agreement with the EU the African Union
- the Association of South East Asian Nations
- the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation
- the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas

The EU and the UK have trade agreements with most of these organisations.

 

[Camicus]

Its a private members bill so wont make it in to law in all proberbility wont even get a second reading so wouldnt get your hopes to high

 

[Deleted member 22389]

It's not just about migration.

Toyota's vehicle plant in Derbyshire, with an annual production capacity of 285,000 vehicles, and 4,300 employees, manufactures Auris and Avensis models for the European market. Over 2.2 million vehicles have been made since production at the plant began in 1992.

Where would they move it to, if the UK left the EU?

Say I lived in France and wanted to buy an Auris that was manufacturerd in the UK, how would that effect my purchase if the UK quit the EU? Would the car be more expensive?

This is the part someone needs to explain to me, because I just cannot see how would it may any difference.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

It's not just about migration.

Toyota's vehicle plant in Derbyshire, with an annual production capacity of 285,000 vehicles, and 4,300 employees, manufactures Auris and Avensis models for the European market. Over 2.2 million vehicles have been made since production at the plant began in 1992.

Where would they move it to, if the UK left the EU?

Out of interest if the UK pulled out of the EU but Toyota stayed in the UK could they not still sell into the EU ? Dont the EU trade laws allow for the 'open' market ?

 

[worthingseagull123]

The ability to live and get a job anywhere in the EU without having to get visas and all that?

But does that benefit everyone?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

They say it will effect trade,

Only the scaremongering EU supporters say that. There is no evidence to prove it and in all likelihood we would have the same trading conditions with the EU as Switzerland does if we left.

The ability to live and get a job anywhere in the EU without having to get visas and all that?

Hmmmmm ........ WELL worth £65b !!!!!!!