Mowlam about to croak.

[CHAPPERS]

Maybe time to start reading her book...

My mother met Mo Mowlam on one of her many trips to Brighton, she is hardly ever speechless but when Mo walked up and shook her hand she was silenced.

RIP you absolute diamond.

 

[Dover]

A fantastic woman. RIP Mo.

 

[GUNTER]

Amazing to think what she achieved whilst she had a brain tumour. What a courageous lady.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

We're all very sad here at ZOO. A lovely woman. RIP Mo

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

One of the best. RIP Mo.

 

[looney]

Hey looney.

My friend Susan died of cancer a week ago today. It started in her spleen, worked it's way up to her lungs and ended up in her brain. Took two years of progressively bad news, til it gained serious momentum in the last month and became unbearable for Susan herself and anybody who ever cared about her. She lived in California and for the last week of her life she took to calling me up at all hours, with the aid of her family members dialling the numbers and holding the mouthpiece for her. She was on heavy sedation, morphine mainly, and she alternated between spouting completely gibberish (completely in French for one particularly memorable period), having conversations of absolute clarity, and going into terrifying panic attacks. She knew she was going to die and she desperately didn't want to. She was always smart and chic and took infuriating-if-you-were-trying-to-go-out-of-an-evening pride in her appearance. She lost all her hair earlydoors, and all control over her bodily functions in the final stages. She was fortysomething. She made her daughter make her a shroud FFS. She wanted it to become a family heirloom til somebody gently pointed out she also wanted to be cremated.

Sorry for laying this on you, on one level, cos you never knew my friend Susan existed, and if you had presumably you wouldn't be rotten enough to have a dig in her final days. But Mo Mowlam is somebody's mum and somebody's partner and somebody's daughter too. And a lot of people's friend. Just because she's in the papers, and was once a public figure, doesn't make it any less sad. If your mum or your nan or anybody you ever knew had to go through the sickening stages of terminal cancer, you couldn't ever have done that post. Least I hope you couldn't.

Maybe stick to shit politics in future mate

You have a point to make? As I stated above I was having a go at those who were canonising her not her directly. And for the record suffering is not a reason for limiting free speech if thats what you are implying.


I hope you all are going to be as concilortary when Thatcher takes a dirt nap or is this just politically motivated grand standing? As usual.

 

[looney]

The point is the timing of Looney's post is disgraceful. Here's a woman who was heavily involved in the peace process. However successful she was or wasn't isn't the point. It's completely disrespectful to a dying woman. She's hardly fit to argue.

I wasn't attacking her directly and she wasn't dead at the time.

 

[The Large One]

How galling it must be for Mo Mowlam's memory that she is being remembered in the same thoughts as Maraget Thatcher.

 

[Chicken Run]

With the exception of the student union of the 70's & 80s most people in this country have a reasonable word to say about the Iron Lady

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

With the exception of the student union of the 70's & 80s most people in this country have a reasonable word to say about the Iron Lady

I've money on Her going soon.

 

[Chicken Run]

I've money on Her going soon.

Medal

 

[3gulls]

How galling it must be for Mo Mowlam's memory that she is being remembered in the same thoughts as Maraget Thatcher.

There is no comparison, Mowlem is not fit to wipe Maggies arse!

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

Medal

Got one thanks,but he'd like one.

 

[Incredigull]

There is no comparison, Mowlem is not fit to wipe Maggies arse!

Other way I think you'll find, dickhead

 

[The Large One]

Maggie was and is a spiteful nasty piece of dirt. That is the way she is, and how she always be remembered.

 

[DJ Leon]

With the exception of the student union of the 70's & 80s most people in this country have a reasonable word to say about the Iron Lady

 

[London Irish]

You have a point to make? As I stated above I was having a go at those who were canonising her not her directly. And for the record suffering is not a reason for limiting free speech if thats what you are implying.

I reluctantly have to agree with Looney here - ah well, there's a first for everything

Mowlem was a public figure and we are entitled to say what we like about her public work AT ANY TIME. The manners/political correctness that denies this is very misguided I feel. Her death is a perfect opportunity to say what we all thought was her significance in public life (or lack of significance).

Funnily enough, I even agree with Looney to the extent that she was quite a flawed politician. She was used fairly cynically by the Blairites early on when her unique "non-politician" personal style suited their agenda of trying to get into power. From then on, in government, she lost out fairly spectacularly in the ruthless internal New Labour fueding because she had no real original political ideas and no real support base/allies within the party. Her career in government was virtually over before it started.

Her stint in the Northern Ireland office was brilliant though, as she did, as Looney says, outrage the grossly sexist Old Farts of the Unionist establishment with her personal touchy-feely style, which only made it SEEM as if she was warmer towards the Republicans than her predecessors when, in fact, she carried out the same political line.

Her death bears no comparison with Robin Cook. He would have went on to have a big role in a Brown government, and he is a tragic loss to the politics of this country. Even if Mowlem had stayed in perfect health, her days in politics were over and all she would have had is a media career as a pundit/commentator.

And Looney is dead right. I'll be organising a street party when Thatcher goes and I want no hypocrisy charges levelled at me. Let their families/loved ones remember them and mourn them as private individuals as Tom Hark would his old friend, but let the rest of us be free to say what we like about their public roles and influence.

 

[El Presidente]

Her death bears no comparison with Robin Cook. He would have went on to have a big role in a Brown government, and he is a tragic loss to the politics of this country.

He was however, according to his former wife, shit in bed. ( Should I have put this on NSP)

 

[Chicken Run]

I reluctantly have to agree with Looney here - ah well, there's a first for everything

Mowlem was a public figure and we are entitled to say what we like about her public work AT ANY TIME. The manners/political correctness that denies this is very misguided I feel. Her death is a perfect opportunity to say what we all thought was her significance in public life (or lack of significance).

Funnily enough, I even agree with Looney to the extent that she was quite a flawed politician. She was used fairly cynically by the Blairites early on when her unique "non-politician" personal style suited their agenda of trying to get into power. From then on, in government, she lost out fairly spectacularly in the ruthless internal New Labour fueding because she had no real original political ideas and no real support base/allies within the party. Her career in government was virtually over before it started.

Her stint in the Northern Ireland office was brilliant though, as she did, as Looney says, outrage the grossly sexist Old Farts of the Unionist establishment with her personal touchy-feely style, which only made it SEEM as if she was warmer towards the Republicans than her predecessors when, in fact, she carried out the same political line.

Her death bears no comparison with Robin Cook. He would have went on to have a big role in a Brown government, and he is a tragic loss to the politics of this country. Even if Mowlem had stayed in perfect health, her days in politics were over and all she would have had is a media career as a pundit/commentator.

And Looney is dead right. I'll be organising a street party when Thatcher goes and I want no hypocrisy charges levelled at me. Let their families/loved ones remember them and mourn them as private individuals as Tom Hark would his old friend, but let the rest of us be free to say what we like about their public roles and influence.

You realy are a....

























very sensible bloke, good post but your politics imho suck but I have got time for you mate

 

[dougdeep]

Mo has been ill for a long time. Who's to say she wouldn't have gone on to greater things if she hadn't had to slow down. Is L.I. saying that anybody who is a labour MP must be a nicer person than any other parties MP's?