So the US should break up into seperate states, call themselves the un-united states, have border controls everywhere, seperate currencies and if I wanted to travel i'd need 20-odd visas for every state?
do you think the migrant issue would have been more manageable if we remained in Europe ...?? 40,000 migrants at 300 quid a week being housed , fed etc. ....well over half a billion quid to be found per annum , its an unanswerable problem in my view , it's going to have to pan out over time , will it end well....i don't think so.That's fair enough and if you read a lot about it, then the increase in channel migration, raging inflation, the longest recession on record, the problem with the unimplementable Northern Ireland Protocol, the inability to implement JRM's 'act of self harm' Import controls, the shortages of staff in the NHS, Care sector, Hospitality, Logistics etc etc (I could go on) will have been completely expected and you will have got exactly what you voted for
You don't understand irony, do you.Not at all, I think it's bloody marvelous having yet another thread about channel crossings where all the same people can make exactly the same misinformed points (all safe routes to the UK closed, Brexit brexit brexit etc).
President Macron offered to have a processing centre in France, but Theresa May turned him down,
Cornwall used to get an EU grant every year, and was promised as much by the government, only to find it was false promises.
www.cornwalllive.com
Maybe you could give an example or two of things they did that 'made it so bloody hard to leave'
, but getting all the xenophobes in Britain to vote for it was a bloody good start. Prior to all this, for decades, we had very reasonable and well run immigration and asylum schemes.
Our industries were falling apart before we joined the EU. British Layland, Cunard....uncompetitive, strikes....When Thatcher got in she closed what was left of it, with a plan that the UK would move into the 'service industry' sector. The demise of British Industry had nothing to do with joining the EU. In fact I'm not even sure I ever recall hearing such a narrative. It is simply foundless.
I am having to do 'right to work' checks and goodness knows what else to re-emply someone to help my teaching (lab technician) who is already employed by my institution. What seems to have happened is the 'health and safety' industry (and what a wheeze that is) has invented itself, and more and more processes to justify its own existence. I was just sent a questionnaire asking me if I teach any under 18s. The answer is that I don't know (the college does let in child prodigies, but I have no idea if I teach any of them). Consequently, I am now having to go through a thorough nonse and pervert vetting process, possibly involving anal probing. In triplicate.
Strictly speaking, doesn't the EU manage immigration by paying Turkey and other less than great countries money to stop them crossing the border?
Would you vote for the breakup of the USA ?
Yes. This problem exploded post leaving the EU, when pre leaving it seemed to be running OK, unless you think that's just a coincidence?
To be clear migration isn't, in itself, a problem.
Your talking rubbish , what manufacturing went to the far east that had anything to do with what i mentioned , because as far as i`m aware they never built a Leander class frigate for us , or a type 21 ,22 ,or 23 , so do you know something i don`t about this ? .President Macron offered to have a processing centre in France, but Theresa May turned him down,
It’s almost as If this government have a need to keep pointing the finger at reasons for their failures.
Cornwall used to get an EU grant every year, and was promised as much by the government, only to find it was false promises.
Cornwall set to get less than half of its replacement EU funding
But Conservatives have welcomed the announcement
Manufacturing went to the Far East in the 70s, nothing to do with the EU, and everything to do with cheap labour.
Far from being told what to do by Brussels, Britain wrote much of it.
These are old arguments and facts proved so I won’t convince you.
Brexiters still beleiving the same old crap from the same old liars rather than admit they were conned. Even now they still think that the EU was just there to rule over us rather than something we were part of and ratified all the decisions made
Why don`t i just give you one example of the EU trying to control GB during the Brexit process that will illustrate what they have done to us since we joined , like taking illegal control of a British factory producing vaccine for Covid 19 because the fuckwits didn`t plan for the need or amount themselves , instead taking ours because they were even dumber and less prepared than Boris ? .Maybe you could give an example or two of things they did that 'made it so bloody hard to leave'
If you simply read the posts on this thread, you will see that the 'migrant issue' was already weaponised prior to Brexit, and formed a significant part of the case for Brexit. Yes, I know that not everyone who voted Brexit was xenophobic or worse
As with so many things, the underlying problem was already there and gathering speed and Brexit simply turbocharged it. So yes, with Dublin II it would have been 'more' manageable', but what is really needed is a Government who put together a serious and fair immigration and asylum policy again.
And this one most definitely won't, as the current policy is the only thing that's keeping the dregs of their support happy and noisy
How many accounts/usernames do you now have on NSC FootyG?
Which books did you read about this?
