[Brighton] More Falmer NIMBYism (contains bats)

[Diablo]

The stadium is absolutely as non-intrusive as it could possibly be...

Indeed, but hugely more intrusive than the field it was built on !!

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Has anyone actually ever even seen a bat at Falmer? Seen plenty of seagulls, but never a bat.

 

[Diablo]

Has anyone actually ever even seen a bat at Falmer? Seen plenty of seagulls, but never a bat.

Go around the church/pond at dusk you`ll see bats. message sent

 

[Wellesley]

Has anyone actually ever even seen a bat at Falmer? Seen plenty of seagulls, but never a bat.

There's one that sits behind me.

 

[Diablo]

For those not thinking there are many bats around this study was done in August on Farm just down the road from Falmer.

Subject: bat data

Hi Chris,

I hope all is well.

Over the last month or so I have been analysing the data we gathered during the experiment. Please find below the peak counts of each species we recorded.

Total Common pipistrelle Soprano pipistrelle Serotine Noctule Myotis species Brwon long eared
711,,,,,,,,,,,538,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 15 ,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 255,,,,,,,,,, 8,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,4,,
,,,,,
The results are what we would expect. The numbers of passes however do suggest that there is a common/soprano pipistrelle and a serotine bat roost close. Perhaps the woodland. Both the myotis species and brown long eared bats are more woodland specialists need the trees and are likely to more active in the woodland. Using the sonograms we can’t accurately ID the myotis species so we just group them together but likely myotis species are natterer’s, whiskered and perhaps brants.


Kind regards,

Finch

 

[Gwylan]

Isn`t everyone to some degree a nimby?....Happy where they live and don`t want any more building around them .

Everyone? I've twice written in support of proposals in my area. Once, in London, when there were plans for a Halfway House for released prisoners at the end of my road. There was a petition, replete with highly inflammatory language (paedophiles preying on our children etc) and when I told a canvasser that not only was I not going to sign the petition but was going to write in support of the application, I got called "a paedo lover" and that I'd better watch myself (nothing happened of course).

And, in Brighton, when there were plans for a student block to replace an unused church, I, again, wrote in support of the proposal, despite the objections of my neighbours.

So, not everyone is some sort of NIMBY.

 

[Bulldog]

Yea, OK, but apart from that, what's Falmer stadium ever done for us?

 

[Gazwag]

Obviously Im glad we got Falmer but people need to stop looking at everything from a BHA point of view . Non BHA fans live in Falmer and quite rightly didn’t want a dunking great stadium on their doorstep. I don’t blame them. If you’re not a football fan the stadium doesn’t offer much for anyone else. They have held 2 concerts and a Jehovas Witness beano once a year. Hardly much for non footy fans to get their teeth into.
Yes, I’m glad we got Falmer but I’m not sure I’d want it on my doorstep if I didn’t support BHA.

Once he gets his mojo back I want him in the stadium for a long time

 

[pearl]

For those not thinking there are many bats around this study was done in August on Farm just down the road from Falmer.

Subject: bat data

Hi Chris,

I hope all is well.

Over the last month or so I have been analysing the data we gathered during the experiment. Please find below the peak counts of each species we recorded.

Total Common pipistrelle Soprano pipistrelle Serotine Noctule Myotis species Brwon long eared
711,,,,,,,,,,,538,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 15 ,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 255,,,,,,,,,, 8,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 7,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,4,,
,,,,,
The results are what we would expect. The numbers of passes however do suggest that there is a common/soprano pipistrelle and a serotine bat roost close. Perhaps the woodland. Both the myotis species and brown long eared bats are more woodland specialists need the trees and are likely to more active in the woodland. Using the sonograms we can’t accurately ID the myotis species so we just group them together but likely myotis species are natterer’s, whiskered and perhaps brants.


Kind regards,

Finch

Bats are protected aren't they?
I saw a few up the top of Sussex Uni about 2 years ago, near where the East Slope Bar was.
It's a shame those cottages have been left in such a state they are lovely flint buildings.
Just out of interest I saw a stoat there some time back too.

 

[brightn'ove]

Could/should have a green roof...

Have you seen the roof recently

 

[Weststander]

I'm not really looking at it from a BHA point of view (although it does have implications for the proposed hotel) but I'm fed up with objections when anything is planned in B&H.

According to the City Plan, we have to build enough to accommodate, I think, 20,000 more people by 2030 (can't be bothered to look up the exact details but it's a significant number) and the universities are struggling to find places for students to live. It makes perfect sense to build an accommodation block near the universities, otherwise the students will take family houses in town (adding to the traffic along Lewes Road).

These people have to go somewhere but whenever a new development is planned, out come the NIMBYs in force.

And Falmer has the worst: the stadium has obviously benefited the city, the planned hotel would have been an asset and we need more houses. Are we going to have this with every development?

2030 is correct.

13,200 new homes to come, with a population increase of 28,000.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Has anyone actually ever even seen a bat at Falmer? Seen plenty of seagulls, but never a bat.

The peregrine keeps them away.

 

[Gwylan]

2030 is correct.

13,200 new homes to come, with a population increase of 28,000.

And where are those new homes to be built if every proposed development gets a fistful of objections?

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I wouldn't want to live next door to a football stadium.

 

[Diablo]

I wouldn't want to live next door to a football stadium.

No one in falmer does. Stadium is the other side of and two hundred yards from Falmer Woodingdean road.

 

[father_and_son]

Indeed, but hugely more intrusive than the field it was built on !!

But my point was exactly the opposite... we have to have facilities somewhere. Some cjtc sold our existing ground and no one would give us a brownfield site.
Much as I disagree with continually concreting over our planet, we need to accept that we need buildings other than just houses... so build the best ones you can given the options you have.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Absolutely... it's a sports stadium, there is a limit to what can actually happen there but this list doesn't mention the games that have been there for the women and youth sides and the number of private corporate events they host on non-match days.


The stadium is absolutely as non-intrusive as it could possibly be... it neighbours other large buildings (the various uni buildings and the fitness centre) rather than being on a residential street. The public transport links are closer than the nearest houses so almost all local residents don't have thousands walking past the end of their gardens.

What *some* people seem to forget is that the country needs buildings other than homes. We do need office blocks and factories, airports and train stations, recreational and entertainment centres... these have to be close to where people live otherwise we live with ridiculous traffic requirements, long commutes and pollution from thousands of cars ferrying people from their "housing-only" estates to shops and work places and places to eat and socialise.

We can be clever in how these are built and what they look like but we cannot pretend that we don't need them or that somebody has to live next/near them... even f**king Daily Mail readers.

This. On day glow roller skates.

 

[skipper734]

The building the University want to build is hideous . On this occasion Nimbys are OK.