[Brighton] Moped gangs

[Garage_Doors]

I suspect the gang have a combined IQ of 50.
Hopefully they will be caught by the police and have to forfeit their mopeds as well as having a sentence at the top end of the scale

The don't ride there own bikes, they are stolen.

 

[vegster]

Everything shit about London eventually makes it way down here.

Just like everything shit about the US finds its way to London.

 

[darkwolf666]

Tried to find this news story online to try and get a bit more detail, but can't find it anywhere. Any links?

 

[Brovion]

And did you know that if the gang members are Muslims not only are the police not allowed to chase them above 15mph, but if they do catch them they have to give them money as they've been 'speeding for Allah'

 

[Arthritic Toe]

High speed chases are not really relevant to this discussion. The moped gangs will disappear up alleyways and paths and between bollards where the police can't follow. Having the police on agile bikes is the only way they will have a chance of following, but in general they aren't equipped for that.

 

[Dr Bandler]

Indeed. I thought I would elaborate for the benefit of those who claim, for example, that the Britsh police are giving money to Muslisms on motorbikes, as long as they claim to be speeding for Allah (etc etc).

While I respect your ability to argue and make points with intelligent, deductive reasoning, what you are doing here is what you are prone to doing on may threads. That is, instead of acknowledge the issue that people are concerned about (in this case, an apparent increase in a type of violent, anti-social behaviour) and making constructive suggestions as to how to prevent and combat it, you point out inconsistencies or inaccuracies in some of the posters' points, with an inference that they are reactionary or incorrect. We thereby go into a chicane of theoretical arguing, rather than address the point. This is not uncommon in public / social media debate in the UK today, and it is therefore no surprise that the authorities end up wringing their hands over what action to take in case they offend someone, and are rarely effective.

I would suggest going for 80/20 solutions that are effective, rather than trying to analyse a situation until we come up with a 100% perfect solution that will never cause any harm or offence. By the time the latter is in progress, the attention has moved on to something else, and the backlog of unsolved problems mounts up.

 

[Gilliver's Travels]

I believe the term for this is 'Snatch Theft'. There were signs on the Tuk Tuks in Bangkok saying "Beware of Snatch Theft

Was Donald Trump visiting?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

While I respect your ability to argue and make points with intelligent, deductive reasoning, what you are doing here is what you are prone to doing on may threads. That is, instead of acknowledge the issue that people are concerned about (in this case, an apparent increase in a type of violent, anti-social behaviour) and making constructive suggestions as to how to prevent and combat it, you point out inconsistencies or inaccuracies in some of the posters' points, with an inference that they are reactionary or incorrect. We thereby go into a chicane of theoretical arguing, rather than address the point. This is not uncommon in public / social media debate in the UK today, and it is therefore no surprise that the authorities end up wringing their hands over what action to take in case they offend someone, and are rarely effective.

I would suggest going for 80/20 solutions that are effective, rather than trying to analyse a situation until we come up with a 100% perfect solution that will never cause any harm or offence. By the time the latter is in progress, the attention has moved on to something else, and the backlog of unsolved problems mounts up.

My facetious comment was in response to the absurd suggestion that the police will allow a person to carry on with any sort of criminal business if there is any risk of damage to said individual by an attempted arrest. As in 'political correctness gone mad' sort of thing. This tedious cracked record gets on my wick, and I think that facetious mocking is the best response. I haven't sabotaged the thread, and all the necessary sensible comments have been made. I am a little disappointed that you feel the need to tell me off.

 

[Dr Bandler]

My facetious comment was in response to the absurd suggestion that the police will allow a person to carry on with any sort of criminal business if there is any risk of damage to said individual by an attempted arrest. As in 'political correctness gone mad' sort of thing. This tedious cracked record gets on my wick, and I think that facetious mocking is the best response. I haven't sabotaged the thread, and all the necessary sensible comments have been made. I am a little disappointed that you feel the need to tell me off.

Sorry, I didn't mean to tell you off. There are many other on this forum more deserving of that.

I think I am feeling frustrated with the inability of the powers that be to respond to the fast-changing challenges of the modern world (including Brexit).

 

[Megazone]

? You don't realise what you did do you ?

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Care to explain?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Sorry, I didn't mean to tell you off. There are many other on this forum more deserving of that.

I think I am feeling frustrated with the inability of the powers that be to respond to the fast-changing challenges of the modern world (including Brexit).

Lol - no worries! I probably deserve the occasional reminder to give my head a wobble.

If you are frustrated with the Brexit process stay off NSC's Brexit thread - you'll lose the will to live.

All the best

 

[Dr Bandler]

Lol - no worries! I probably deserve the occasional reminder to give my head a wobble.

If you are frustrated with the Brexit process stay off NSC's Brexit thread - you'll lose the will to live.

All the best

I actually enjoy reading (most of) your posts. I get the feeling that, although we may have different political leanings, you are the type of chap I would enjoy discussing things with over a cup of tea (it would have been a pint, but I am off the alcohol at the moment).

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I actually enjoy reading (most of) your posts. I get the feeling that, although we may have different political leanings, you are the type of chap I would enjoy discussing things with over a cup of tea (it would have been a pint, but I am off the alcohol at the moment).

How very kind. That sounds delightful

 

[Garage_Doors]

High speed chases are not really relevant to this discussion. The moped gangs will disappear up alleyways and paths and between bollards where the police can't follow. Having the police on agile bikes is the only way they will have a chance of following, but in general they aren't equipped for that.

If they were actually mopeds you would not need a car to chase them, you could do it on foot and just pull them off, oh err misses.

 

[carlzeiss]

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