[Brighton] Moped gangs

[AmexRuislip]

They’re not retards. It’s just that the rules of the road don’t apply to you if you’re trying to rush a Big Mac across town.

 

[BNthree]

Curious why they were smashing bikes up early in the morning as normally the gangs would be committing robberies from either shops or people. Also imagine those types are rather partial to a lie-in.

 

[Dirty Dave]

Yes took 10 mins to get through. People in the hotel opposite just looking on. They were under the CCTV cams

Was that on 101? If so, 999 would have been best option to get through for an incident like this

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[BNthree]

https://news.sky.com/story/officers...cted-from-prosecution-under-new-laws-11381331

 

[Stat Brother]

Yet they sound like people who'd be entirely uneffected by a head injury.

 

[Biscuit]

Apparently they do this as police are not allowed to pursue them in case they make them have an accident.

As others have said, that's a myth. This article about moped crime is only eight weeks old, it's becoming a real problem.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44204844

 

[Bozza]

Whilst I obviously don't condone it, I can understand drive-by thefts of phone and bags etc, but just maliciously destroying a load or property for no intended financial gain - what's the point?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

As others have said, that's a myth. This article about moped crime is only eight weeks old, it's becoming a real problem.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44204844

That just mentions aims and plans. It hasn't become law yet, so in the meantime, if a criminal dies as a result of being chased on a bike, the police chasing can still be charged.


Question.
As I pointed out earlier, this took place on station premises, so therefore under BTP jurisdiction. Do BTP have motorbike riders who can give chase to these vandals?

 

[Foolg]

As others have said, that's a myth. This article about moped crime is only eight weeks old, it's becoming a real problem.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44204844

It is partly, but I think police have reasonable reason to be a little concerned.

Look into the Henry Hicks case I posted above, police were charged (although cleared) of gross misconduct and he WAS wearing a helmet. If someone wasn't wearing a helmet it may have been different.

I'm no expert but that's how I interpret it, and currently the changes are only proposals - although a step in the right direction to stop the f*ckers.

 

[studio150]

I suspect the gang have a combined IQ of 50.
Hopefully they will be caught by the police and have to forfeit their mopeds as well as having a sentence at the top end of the scale

 

[Driver8]

I suspect the gang have a combined IQ of 50.
Hopefully they will be caught by the police and have to forfeit their mopeds as well as having a sentence at the top end of the scale

The mopeds are probably stolen anyway.

 

[pasty]

Hopefully they will be caught by the police and have to forfeit their mopeds as well as having a sentence at the top end of the scale

More like a goof ticking off, slap on the wrist and told to stop being naughty

 

[Da Man Clay]

As others have said, that's a myth. This article about moped crime is only eight weeks old, it's becoming a real problem.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44204844

Slight semantics here - It is a ‘myth’ that police are totally unable to be involved in pursuits with moped riders with or without helmets regardless of the circumstances.

It has however always been the case with any type of pursuit that a decision is made around the risks involved to public and parties involved. Removal of a helmet and fail to stop/driving recklessly will immediately heighten that risk and a decision being made to continue with that pursuit. For minor instances of vandalism it’s unlikely the risk to life is going to be worth continuing a pursuit. More protection for police drivers isn’t going to change that decision making.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Sub human scum, often found on oxford street for phones and new Bond Street for jewellery smash and grabs


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[Biscuit]

That just mentions aims and plans. It hasn't become law yet, so in the meantime, if a criminal dies as a result of being chased on a bike, the police chasing can still be charged.


Question.
As I pointed out earlier, this took place on station premises, so therefore under BTP jurisdiction. Do BTP have motorbike riders who can give chase to these vandals?

I've no answer to that question I'm afraid.

 

[Gazwag]

That just mentions aims and plans. It hasn't become law yet, so in the meantime, if a criminal dies as a result of being chased on a bike, the police chasing can still be charged.


Question.
As I pointed out earlier, this took place on station premises, so therefore under BTP jurisdiction. Do BTP have motorbike riders who can give chase to these vandals?

So if somebody was being attacked on a station and you ring 999 the police would say "sorry, not our department you will have to ring 0800 40 50 40"

Edit: I can answer my own question, from the BTP website

"How should I report antisocial behaviour?


Any threatening or abusive behaviour should be reported. This includes rowdy, noisy or drunken behaviour, offensive or threatening language, littering or vandalism, or forming part of a menacing group.

Call us on 0800 40 50 40 or text 61016 to report antisocial behaviour. To report antisocial behaviour on buses or roads, please contact your local police station on 101.

If a crime is in progress or if anyone is in immediate danger, you should always dial 999."

 

[Da Man Clay]

I've no answer to that question I'm afraid.

The answer is no - but it’s a bit irrelevant really. Local forces would be the first to respond and pursue in the first instance.

 

[Two Professors]

Can be a purely commercial motive if they think other couriers are muscling in on their territory,for example.Doesn't excuse the behaviour,but it might not just be wanton vandalism.

 

[FatSuperman]

Whilst I obviously don't condone it, I can understand drive-by thefts of phone and bags etc, but just maliciously destroying a load or property for no intended financial gain - what's the point?

I believe the term for this is 'Snatch Theft'. There were signs on the Tuk Tuks in Bangkok saying "Beware of Snatch Theft", and I'm fairly confident they were not referring to the UK's slang version of 'snatch'. Either way, I love the term, so please ensure to use it in future. We can spread it around NSC, then the UK, and then THE WERELD!

 

[Triggaaar]

Unfoertunately public opinion is very much against the police in chases. If the alleged criminal dies, the police are deemed to have put them into that situation.

Where is this information from? I'd guess if you put a poll on here, that would not be the people's verdict.