[Sussex] monks farm planning

[The Clamp]

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A lot of our furniture is what gets called 'vintage' we've chopped and changed over the years, usually getting your money back on things, recently sold a Deco drinks cabinet and replaced with a 60's teak side board . . . . found a really good Vintage one for Ikea money, which was 1/4 of the new G plan prices.

plenty of greenery between Lancing and the Airport. View attachment 138311

Frightening how much of that land is earmarked for development.
Yep, I see the appeal of IKEA.
When the then Ms The Clamp and I got our first flat together about 15 years ago, we did a one stop shop at IKEA. Kitted the place out a treat, plate of meatballs, home by supper time.
It’s what most folks want and IKEA provides. I get that.
I personally love a trip around a reclamation yard or used furniture store/antique shop. Yiu don’t have to spend anymore than you would at IKEA. And it’s a great afternoon out.

 

[Chicken Run]

There is/was still a large swathe of land separating Shoreham and Lancing. You get a real idea of just how much wetland and greenfield is being destroyed for this development, by going up to Lancing Ring and looking down on the Shoreham side. A birds eye view of the destruction.

I totally agree and can you believe a bloody football club who are not even from Lancing/Shoreham have built an Academy there too……


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[The Clamp]

I totally agree and can you believe a bloody football club who are not even from Lancing/Shoreham have built an Academy there too……


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A good use of the land and we are proud to have it here. As we would be with truly affordable housing, providing adequate infrastructure accompanied it.
As you will have no doubt read earlier, I would love some sort of community sports ground there. But it’s unlikely, doesn’t make anyone enough money.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Mrs Gwylan is not going to be happy either ... but at least I'm spared the horror of the Ikea trip

Absolutely terrifying experience; it’s a windowless vortex of flat pack furniture and fittings. Once was enough.

 

[Gwylan]

Absolutely terrifying experience; it’s a windowless vortex of flat pack furniture and fittings. Once was enough.

I've been to Ikea in Croydon three times (the first time with the previous Mrs G): I've told Mrs G, never again. She goes up with a friend now and makes "a day of it". It's my idea of hell

 

[figgis]

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Frightening how much of that land is earmarked for development.
Yep, I see the appeal of IKEA.
When the then Ms The Clamp and I got our first flat together about 15 years ago, we did a one stop shop at IKEA. Kitted the place out a treat, plate of meatballs, home by supper time.
It’s what most folks want and IKEA provides. I get that.
I personally love a trip around a reclamation yard or used furniture store/antique shop. Yiu don’t have to spend anymore than you would at IKEA. And it’s a great afternoon out.

I have read your posts and you obviously live in comfort in the age of dinosaurs. Many young people who can't afford a mortgage pay extortionate rent and would love an IKEA in this area.

I am 53 and despair and feel sick reading comments from I am all right Jack people like you.

 

[Weststander]

I have read your posts and you obviously live in comfort in the age of dinosaurs. Many young people who can't afford a mortgage pay extortionate rent and would love an IKEA in this area.

I am 53 and despair and feel sick reading comments from I am all right Jack people like you.

40% of these new homes are affordable, being allocated and managed by a registered social landlord. NON-PROFIT MAKING. Under a range of schemes such as shared ownership. Rents are significantly below market rents.

I know through my work and a very close by development to me that these will be taken by low paid workers, teachers, teaching assistants and NHS staff. I’ve spoken with very grateful recipients, they have a new home and no longer live on someone’s sofa or with elderly relatives.

People who snipe about affordables on the Argus and NSC have no real world knowledge of how it works, who’s getting the homes.

240 lower paid families are soon to get a new home, partly addressing the “housing emergency” of millions outlined by Shelter.

Who could possibly be against this?

 

[figgis]

40% of these new homes are affordable, being allocated and managed by a registered social landlord. NON-PROFIT MAKING. Under a range of schemes such as shared ownership. Rents are significantly below market rents.

I know through my work and a very close by development to me that these will be taken by low paid workers, teachers, teaching assistants and NHS staff. I’ve spoken with very grateful recipients, they have a new home and no longer live on someone’s sofa or with elderly relatives.

People who snipe about affordables on the Argus and NSC have no real world knowledge of how it works, who’s getting the homes.

240 lower paid families are soon to get a new home, partly addressing the “housing emergency” of millions outlined by Shelter.

Who could possibly be against this?

My Son is a teacher and his girlfriend works for the Council. I doubt your use of affordable.

 

[The Clamp]

40% of these new homes are affordable, being allocated and managed by a registered social landlord. NON-PROFIT MAKING. Under a range of schemes such as shared ownership. Rents are significantly below market rents.

I know through my work and a very close by development to me that these will be taken by low paid workers, teachers, teaching assistants and NHS staff. I’ve spoken with very grateful recipients, they have a new home and no longer live on someone’s sofa or with elderly relatives.

People who snipe about affordables on the Argus and NSC have no real world knowledge of how it works, who’s getting the homes.

240 lower paid families are soon to get a new home, partly addressing the “housing emergency” of millions outlined by Shelter.

Who could possibly be against this?

Who indeed? Not me. If you’d read my posts you’ll see I am for truly affordable housing. As long as the infrastructure comes with it.
Honestly, do I really have to say the same thing over and over? I am not against affordable housing.
Read things properly please.

Is £350k that affordable though?

 

[Weststander]

My Son is a teacher and his girlfriend works for the Council. I doubt your use of affordable.

In my own close family are nurses and teachers.

I spoken personally with folk getting/who’ve received affordable homes from Hyde Housing and a separate small affordables development near me.

We have an unemployed single mum who’d lived in b&b for years, teachers, immigrants, nurses. All happy with the outcome, the new homes, the level of rent. A huge reduction on the sky high rents paid in this expensive part of the world. Rents set at 80% of MV or mortgage repayments set at just 35% of household income.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Who indeed? Not me. If you’d read my posts you’ll see I am for truly affordable housing. As long as the infrastructure comes with it.
Honestly, do I really have to say the same thing over and over? I am not against affordable housing.
Read things properly please.

Is £350k that affordable though?

That infrastructure being the nub of the matter and sadly lacking in all the new developments in Shoreham if my doctors surgery is anything to go by

 

[The Clamp]

I have read your posts and you obviously live in comfort in the age of dinosaurs. Many young people who can't afford a mortgage pay extortionate rent and would love an IKEA in this area.

I am 53 and despair and feel sick reading comments from I am all right Jack people like you.

You clearly haven’t read my posts properly. I am for truly affordable housing. Please read things properly.

As for IKEA, no I don’t like the company and I am glad they are not attracting unmanageable traffic and selling their cheap, willingly irresponsibly sourced furniture and plastic tat around here. I stand by that.

Im alright Jack? Not a bit of it. I am currently renting a place that takes up almost half of my regular wage. I don’t earn much working in a women’s refuge and cannot afford to live and save unless I knacker myself doing endless overtime shifts. I’ve just finished thirteen, 12 hour night shifts in a row so I can try and put some money away for a deposit somewhere. And that js something I do month in, month out.

Comfortable? I’m alright Jack? Do me a favour.

This area needs housing. I am one of the people that needs affordable housing. But there’s no point building it if you swamp an area that doesn’t have the infrastructure to cope with potentially almost 3000 new households.
Do you not understand that?
Yes build the homes but put the infrastructure in place to support it.

 

[figgis]

You clearly haven’t read my posts properly. I am for truly affordable housing. Please read things properly.

As for IKEA, no I don’t like the company and I am glad they are not attracting unmanageable traffic and selling their cheap, willingly irresponsibly sourced furniture and plastic tat around here. I stand by that.

Im alright Jack? Not a bit of it. I am currently renting a place that takes up almost half of my regular wage. I don’t earn much working in a women’s refuge and cannot afford to live and save unless I knacker myself doing endless overtime shifts. I’ve just finished thirteen, 12 hour night shifts in a row so I can try and put some money away for a deposit somewhere. And that js something I do month in, month out.

Comfortable? I’m alright Jack? Do me a favour.

This area needs housing. I am one of the people that needs affordable housing. But there’s no point building it if you swamp an area that doesn’t have the infrastructure to cope with potentially almost 3000 new households.
Do you not understand that?
Yes build the homes but put the infrastructure in place to support it.

I apologise for miss reading your posts. 350k is not affordable housing. I feel sorry for the young and people like your self Sir. Impossible situation.

 

[figgis]

You clearly haven’t read my posts properly. I am for truly affordable housing. Please read things properly.

As for IKEA, no I don’t like the company and I am glad they are not attracting unmanageable traffic and selling their cheap, willingly irresponsibly sourced furniture and plastic tat around here. I stand by that.

Im alright Jack? Not a bit of it. I am currently renting a place that takes up almost half of my regular wage. I don’t earn much working in a women’s refuge and cannot afford to live and save unless I knacker myself doing endless overtime shifts. I’ve just finished thirteen, 12 hour night shifts in a row so I can try and put some money away for a deposit somewhere. And that js something I do month in, month out.

Comfortable? I’m alright Jack? Do me a favour.

This area needs housing. I am one of the people that needs affordable housing. But there’s no point building it if you swamp an area that doesn’t have the infrastructure to cope with potentially almost 3000 new households.
Do you not understand that?
Yes build the homes but put the infrastructure in place to support it.

IKEA is better than Argos though

 

[The Clamp]

I apologise for miss reading your posts. 350k is not affordable housing. I feel sorry for the young and people like your self Sir. Impossible situation.

Cheers, no problem. It’s frustrating that I spend my life working until I’m shattered to rent a place to pay a millionaires mortgage.
I will see what the rent on these new places is, however I suspect the rental situation will be a landlord who’s bought a buy to rent and will charge the same as anywhere else.
The really affordable places seem inaccessible to me as I’m in full time work with no dependents.
I sometimes despair knowing I’m only really working to pay a few bills. Grim.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Who indeed? Not me. If you’d read my posts you’ll see I am for truly affordable housing. As long as the infrastructure comes with it.
Honestly, do I really have to say the same thing over and over? I am not against affordable housing.
Read things properly please.

Is £350k that affordable though?

That’s for a house for sale, whereas there are housing association houses available to rent, as per Westander’s post, or I have misunderstood altogether.

 

[Weststander]

You clearly haven’t read my posts properly. I am for truly affordable housing. Please read things properly.

As for IKEA, no I don’t like the company and I am glad they are not attracting unmanageable traffic and selling their cheap, willingly irresponsibly sourced furniture and plastic tat around here. I stand by that.

Im alright Jack? Not a bit of it. I am currently renting a place that takes up almost half of my regular wage. I don’t earn much working in a women’s refuge and cannot afford to live and save unless I knacker myself doing endless overtime shifts. I’ve just finished thirteen, 12 hour night shifts in a row so I can try and put some money away for a deposit somewhere. And that js something I do month in, month out.

Comfortable? I’m alright Jack? Do me a favour.

This area needs housing. I am one of the people that needs affordable housing. But there’s no point building it if you swamp an area that doesn’t have the infrastructure to cope with potentially almost 3000 new households.
Do you not understand that?
Yes build the homes but put the infrastructure in place to support it.

Infrastructure? If you include major new or enlarged roads, which makes sense, almost everyone then moans about that destroying the planet.

A selfish argument I’ve frequently heard from nimbies sitting pretty in comfortable homes on the urban fringe is that the new homes should all be built in urban centres. 3.4m new homes are required. Should all those families be housed in new city centre flats to appease nimbies who don’t want little world disturbed?

(Not you btw).

 

[The Clamp]

That’s for a house for sale, whereas there are housing association houses available to rent, as per Westander’s post, or I have misunderstood altogether.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Would be nice if there were some decent places to rent at reasonable cost.
I didn’t realise there would be HA properties. I’ve always been turned down in the past as I’m not vulnerable, have no dependants and work full time.

 

[figgis]

That’s for a house for sale, whereas there are housing association houses available to rent, as per Westander’s post, or I have misunderstood altogether.

I don't think you have misunderstood. Both ways they will be bought by housing associations and turned in to a Ghetto.

 

[Weststander]

That’s for a house for sale, whereas there are housing association houses available to rent, as per Westander’s post, or I have misunderstood altogether.

360 units are at full market value being sold by Cala.

75 units are being handed over to a registered social landlord, for allocation to people on (normally) long lists they hold of people desperate for a new start.

“New Monks Farm, Lancing
In partnership with CALA Homes, Saxon Weald is working to deliver 45 new homes for affordable rent and 30 new homes for purchase on a shared ownership basis. Conveniently located with easy access to Worthing and Brighton, the completed site will also consist of a new IKEA store and a 28-hectare country park. Properties on this development will range from one-bedroom flats to three-bedroom houses, and will be available on a phased release from 2021 to 2025”.

I presume that another party is involved with the balance?