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The Clamp

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Absolutely, especially if it was built and designed for community access/use

Yep, would be excellent. I very much doubt it’ll be anything but housing or something like an Amazon warehouse but we can hope!
 


Superphil

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Truth is, the big retail parks maybe a thing of the past. New thinking is that smaller local outlets will let you view/ try on selected products but actually they will just be your outlet. Take Asda and Sainsbury's, rather than offering everything under their own brand, they're splitting it into separate parts, Asda's George will soon become a clothing brand in it's own right, Asda Opticians will likely become it's own brand, Sainsbury's will increase their partnerships already with Timpsons, Argos etc. and probably allow an outlet for the cafe rather than Sainbury's cafe, they're splitting things up after years of bringing them together under one roof.

Ikea probably don't need a huge store with loads of stock and a giant car park. They probably just need a showroom space to see the stuff, people then go home and order what they've seen.

Local high streets could be seen as cheap alternatives for bigger retail to operate smaller outlets without the need for huge stock rooms. Hopefully could be an injection local high streets desperately need.

All that, and they probably worked out that the traffic on the A27 will be an absolute nightmare once it's built, which would deter customers going there in the first place.
 


Thunder Bolt

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Put into the mix that Aldi are looking for a site in Shoreham about 1.5 acres in size and able to accommodate a 20,000-square-foot store with around 100 parking spaces, ideally on a prominent main road and with good visibility and access.

I wonder if they will put in for the IKEA site?
 




Thunder Bolt

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Truth is, the big retail parks maybe a thing of the past. New thinking is that smaller local outlets will let you view/ try on selected products but actually they will just be your outlet. Take Asda and Sainsbury's, rather than offering everything under their own brand, they're splitting it into separate parts, Asda's George will soon become a clothing brand in it's own right, Asda Opticians will likely become it's own brand, Sainsbury's will increase their partnerships already with Timpsons, Argos etc. and probably allow an outlet for the cafe rather than Sainbury's cafe, they're splitting things up after years of bringing them together under one roof.

Ikea probably don't need a huge store with loads of stock and a giant car park. They probably just need a showroom space to see the stuff, people then go home and order what they've seen.

Local high streets could be seen as cheap alternatives for bigger retail to operate smaller outlets without the need for huge stock rooms. Hopefully could be an injection local high streets desperately need.

They’ll need to reduce their delivery charges for smaller items. £50 is fine when it’s a bed, mattress and wardrobes, but not when you’re ordering a set of saucepans.
 




Mellotron

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Do a 4K IMAX there, with bowling alley and shit.
 




southstandandy

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Originally when the land was put up for sale it was going to be the Ikea and 600 homes and a school, if no Ikea then 2000 homes.

Suspect now the land will just be sold for further housing development. Whatever happens the A27 will be chaotic (more than it currently is).
 




KeegansHairPiece

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They’ll need to reduce their delivery charges for smaller items. £50 is fine when it’s a bed, mattress and wardrobes, but not when you’re ordering a set of saucepans.

I have no idea what Ikea will do. What retail is realising is that lorries are going to certain places anyway, so loading on them such as Argos does at Sainsbury's is a more efficient use of logistics. Whether Ikea has similar future thinking who knows, but pulling out of a big store plan late in the day when assessments on traffic etc. have long been known would suggest a rethink is underway.
 




m@goo

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They’ll need to reduce their delivery charges for smaller items. £50 is fine when it’s a bed, mattress and wardrobes, but not when you’re ordering a set of saucepans.

I wanted a £60 display cabinet delivered. £40 delivery! Eff off!
 




The Clamp

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They can't just increase the number of houses just like that. We'd be back to months, maybe years of constant proposals, rejections and consequent delays. The only viable solution on my view is getting another store onboard.

With the Tory’s new “developers” charter, they’d get clearance in a matter of months.

With that plot sold by the roundabout and possible new housing where IKEA was going to go, that’s one vast estate joining Shoreham and lancing.
Grim.
 




el punal

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I'm assuming the thinking is there is no future in big box retail any more; post-covid more people than ever are ordering online.

No, the problem is Ikea have so many customers who have remained in their stores and can’t find their way to the exit. This has resulted in some strange time warp as people are on an endless treadmill of ending back at the glassware and crockery section, some are luckier and have found bedding and sofas. Missing children have grown up by the time they’re found in the pictures and posters bit.

This is a new version of the Stockholm Syndrome. :mad:
 


schmunk

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Jan 19, 2018
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I wanted a £60 display cabinet delivered. £40 delivery! Eff off!

Almost 20 years ago I bought a sofa from IKEA and only had a little car - delivery was going to be £40 and in a week's time, but next to the delivery desk they had a taxi phone and a line of people carriers and small vans waiting outside.

I paid about £30 and raced the sofa the 10 miles home!
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Truth is, the big retail parks maybe a thing of the past. New thinking is that smaller local outlets will let you view/ try on selected products but actually they will just be your outlet. Take Asda and Sainsbury's, rather than offering everything under their own brand, they're splitting it into separate parts, Asda's George will soon become a clothing brand in it's own right, Asda Opticians will likely become it's own brand, Sainsbury's will increase their partnerships already with Timpsons, Argos etc. and probably allow an outlet for the cafe rather than Sainbury's cafe, they're splitting things up after years of bringing them together under one roof.

Ikea probably don't need a huge store with loads of stock and a giant car park. They probably just need a showroom space to see the stuff, people then go home and order what they've seen.

Local high streets could be seen as cheap alternatives for bigger retail to operate smaller outlets without the need for huge stock rooms. Hopefully could be an injection local high streets desperately need.

it may have escape you, but Ikea is a showroom with warehouse attached. the warehouse needs to be somewhere, so they normally put both together on a cheap industrial park with carpark attached.
 






The Clamp

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If they’re going to destroy precious wetland, I’d rather people at least got to make a home and a life there rather than thousands of muelling cabbage people driving in from far and wide to line the pockets of a huge, environmentally irresponsible corporation by buying their cheap furniture and plastic cutlery trays.
But 2000 extra homes? Jeez. That’s gonna put a huge strain on the already at capacity infrastructure.
 


schmunk

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Jan 19, 2018
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If they’re going to destroy precious wetland, I’d rather people at least got to make a home and a life there rather than thousands of muelling cabbage people driving in from far and wide to line the pockets of a huge, environmentally irresponsible corporation by buying their cheap furniture and plastic cutlery trays.
But 2000 extra homes? Jeez. That’s gonna put a huge strain on the already at capacity infrastructure.


OH NO! IKEA or housing? IKEA or housing?

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