Agree with the first bit, but I'm prepared to bet that every single time in the last 10 years that the wage structure has been 'broken' it's been for one player, and I would think it highly likely that the last time was a few months ago for AliMac. It's how stepped incremental improvement is supported and it's simply whether Caicedo justifies itSurely a new deal on massive wages would only be offered without a release clause ? The purpose of the offer would be in part to protect/increase his resale value. Anyway, they won’t break the wage structure for one player so it would be a case of making him one of our highest earners rather than anything else.
Yep. Forgot that. Good to see no fuss over Caicedo.Perhaps with Mac being suspended for Saturday, he's been given a couple of days off?
Of course we can include stipulations but we still lose a lot of control. We may hit the summer window and realise we still don't want to sell and he's vital for next seasons assault on a European trophy. If Arsenal, Chelsea or anyone match the release clause we'd be powerless to stop him leaving if that's what he wanted. We'd have to make the release fee astronomical to at least cushion the blow of losing him.I understand your point, but if the fee is high enough, then you've already accepted that as the fee, and to keep control you could have certain stipulations, such as 'summer window only, and not on the last month'
Well obviously a short contract would significantly lower a player's value, but I don't know if there becomes a limit where a longer contract no longer adds to the value (eg, after 4 or 5 years). But the point is, he wouldn't sign a new contract that doesn't offer him something useful, and given that Arsenal and Chelsea just tried to sign him, I wouldn't expect him to make it even harder to leave in the summer.Surely the valuation differs each time depending on the length of contract, what the club has achieved during the season etc
Agreed. The best thing for all parties would be no mention of it at all - just slip back into normality.Yep. Forgot that. Good to see no fuss over Caicedo.
That's not the same as a release clause.Well obviously a short contract would significantly lower a player's value, but I don't know if there becomes a limit where a longer contract no longer adds to the value (eg, after 4 or 5 years). But the point is, he wouldn't sign a new contract that doesn't offer him something useful, and given that Arsenal and Chelsea just tried to sign him, I wouldn't expect him to make it even harder to leave in the summer.
As we definitely need him for Saturday.Agreed. The best thing for all parties would be no mention of it at all - just slip back into normality.
Yes, but if the club is saying that it won't stand in a player's way, does that not mean we have to accept a large offer anyway? This window it was more reasonable to say no, because we're mid season with no chance to replace him, and he hadn't even played a season for us. Let's say he doesn't sign a new contract, and we're offered £80m in the summer, and he asks to leave - do you think we'll say no?Of course we can include stipulations but we still lose a lot of control. We may hit the summer window and realise we still don't want to sell and he's vital for next seasons assault on a European trophy.
I guess that depends on how Moder comes back. What is going on with Alexis and how well Facundo settles etc. hard to say right now.Yes, but if the club is saying that it won't stand in a player's way, does that not mean we have to accept a large offer anyway? This window it was more reasonable to say no, because we're mid season with no chance to replace him, and he hadn't even played a season for us. Let's say he doesn't sign a new contract, and we're offered £80m in the summer, and he asks to leave - do you think we'll say no?
You can bet your life that behind doors a bit of piss taking would of taken place!Agreed. The best thing for all parties would be no mention of it at all - just slip back into normality.
Yep, and I'm expecting him to play, not being given time off for bad behaviour. Besides, if he's as decent a guy as we're constantly told, he'll be putting in 150% and ripping Muff a new one, come Saturday.As we definitely need him for Saturday.
Anything less than 177% and I'm booingYep, and I'm expecting him to play, not being given time off for bad behaviour. Besides, if he's as decent a guy as we're constantly told, he'll be putting in 150% and ripping Muff a new one, come Saturday.
177% + add-ons?Anything less than 177% and I'm booing
I was thinking that the Palace match is perfect for galvanising the fan base for the team against a common enemy. Literally could not care less what anyone has done before when it's that match. If they are wearing blue and white, previous sins will be forgiven.My only hope is there is no reaction from the stands to him saturday and can see something coming out from the club in the coming days along the lines of acknowledges mistake, now focused on helping Brighton blah blah
Need to soften the landing for him and in many ways it would probably be easier for him to return in an away match
I just don't think we're like that are we? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the loudest cheer when his name is read out.My only hope is there is no reaction from the stands to him saturday
He has two + one years left at the end of this season. He doesn't need a new contract but I'm sure under the terms of the existing one he can be given a pay riseWell obviously a short contract would significantly lower a player's value, but I don't know if there becomes a limit where a longer contract no longer adds to the value (eg, after 4 or 5 years). But the point is, he wouldn't sign a new contract that doesn't offer him something useful, and given that Arsenal and Chelsea just tried to sign him, I wouldn't expect him to make it even harder to leave in the summer.
Irrespective of any boos,and there might be a few that do, he'll soon be cheered and his song sang with gusto when he does his normal in a game.I just don't think we're like that are we? I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the loudest cheer when his name is read out.