[Albion] Mohammed Kudus **Signed For West Ham 27/08**

[Kalimantan Gull]

We think we've been pillaged by the Big 6. Ajax have lost the following XI in the past 14 months, with Alvarez poised to join Hammers this week too:

Onana
Timber - L. Martinez - Bassey - Tagliafico
Gravenberch - Blind - Grillitsch
Antony - Haller - Tadic

Yeah but @dwayne thinks they're all shit so they haven't really lost at all

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

I wish it was a general thing. On politics threads people post opinions from twatter from no-marks who know no more than us. Who cares? Give your own opinion.

Ah yeah, but then how can people justify their prejudices without referencing idiots on both sides of the divide?

 

[Guinness Boy]

I agree to an extent but once you have a player you currently value at 100 million, it's a lot easier to say to a Kudus- we value Caicedo at 100 million, and it looks like someone will eventually pay that. We bought him for 5 million (or whatever). You are a high profile player playing for a huge European club and you're costing us 35 million playing in a position that generally attracts higher prices.

If the Saudis get going £100 mill will be peanuts in two years

 

[dazzer6666]

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Our net spend this summer stands at about £0.

According to transfermarkt.com our net spend in 2022/23 was +€82m, and in 2021/22 it was +€3m.

We are currently cash rich, so it looks like any deal for Kudus is financially independent of a potential Caicedo sale.

The fact that we've made a firm offer for Kudus without knowing if Caicedo would be sold or not, also suggests that Kudus is not seen as a Caicedo replacement.

So does that indicate that if Caicedo were to leave, we'd still be looking to sign Kudus plus a Caicedo replacement? And if so, who?

Recent rumours suggest Caicedo's replacement might be one of the following:

Teun Koopmeiners
Tyler Adams
Maxime Lopez
David Frattesi
Amadou Haidara
Conor Gallagher

But who are our Kudus alternatives?

 

[dazzer6666]

Our net spend this summer stands at about £0.

According to transfermarkt.com our net spend in 2022/23 was +€82m, and in 2021/22 it was +€3m.

We are currently cash rich, so it looks like any deal for Kudus is financially independent of a potential Caicedo sale.

The fact that we've made a firm offer for Kudus without knowing if Caicedo would be sold or not, also suggests that Kudus is not seen as a Caicedo replacement.

So does that indicate that if Caicedo were to leave, we'd still be looking to sign Kudus plus a Caicedo replacement? And if so, who?

Recent rumours suggest Caicedo's replacement might be one of the following:

Teun Koopmeiners
Tyler Adams
Maxime Lopez
David Frattesi
Amadou Haidara
Conor Gallagher

But who are our Kudus alternatives?

….and our accumulated losses ?

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

….and our accumulated losses ?

Over what period?

 

[dazzer6666]

Over what period?

Whatever you like……still massive

 

[chaileyjem]

Over what period?

Our accumulated losses since being in the PL are £245m.

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Whatever you like……still massive

I like the last 3 seasons, we're £73m in the black plus whatever prize money we were awarded.

 

[raymondo]

Quite a few I'd say. Those two plus Dunk, March, Veltman, Steele, Lallana, Milner, Ferguson, Welbeck, Webster, Gilmour and probably Dahoud, Lamptey and Adringa. We've got a pretty sensible bunch of pros.

Seems a reasonable list,

 

[Mancgull]

Our accumulated losses since being in the PL are £245m.

Which would be repaid by the accumulated value of Ferguson, Mitoma, Enciso. So we are doing ok.

 

[dazzer6666]

I like the last 3 seasons, we're £73m in the black plus whatever prize money we were awarded.

Last 3 sets of published accounts show accumulated losses of c85m.

 

[Taybha]

Whilst we wait
I've always wondered if this was real

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Last 3 sets of published accounts show accumulated losses of c85m.

Net transfer losses or training ground improvements?

 

[chaileyjem]

Net transfer losses or training ground improvements?

They are total losses. The club has spent (mostly wages on staff, players) £245m more than its received in income (commercial, transfers, TV) in the PL.
Tony Bloom - we'd hope continues to be generous - as he's now contributed £400m of his ££ to the Albion to service these losses and those whilst we were in the Championship and building the Amex and the training ground etc.

 

[Affy]

just adding to the conspiracy. Flight from Shoreham today to Biggin hill…

 

[nwgull]

Our accumulated losses since being in the PL are £245m.

I don’t think they are:

17-18: +11m
18-19: -21m
19-20: -67m
20-21: -53m
21-22: +24m

I make that a loss of 106m in the first 5 seasons. And if we made +24m with 70m worth of sales in 20-21, then I think it's reasonably safe to say that we'll have made something in region of 100m with last season's sales of 150m as well as additional prize and TV money for finishing 3 places higher, so that loss should be close to being wiped out once the 22-23 accounts are done.

You sure you're not thinking of loss since being at the Amex?

 

[chaileyjem]

I don’t think they are:

17-18: +11m
18-19: -21m
19-20: -67m
20-21: -53m
21-22: +24m

I make that a loss of 106m in the first 5 seasons. And if we made +24m with 70m worth of sales in 20-21, then I think it's reasonably safe to say that we'll have made something in region of 100m with last season's sales of 150m as well as additional prize and TV money for finishing 3 places higher, so that loss should be close to being wiped out once the 22-23 accounts are done.

You sure you're not thinking of loss since being at the Amex?

ha ! i didn't bother to look up the losses each season - i went from a quote in this piece https://www.wearebrighton.com/newso...lse-we-learnt-from-brighton-2021-22-accounts/

Yep. losses in the Champ were below- (and agreed we're likely to be in profit again for 22/23 accounts due to sales, prize money, cup run etc. )

16-17 -39m
15-16 -26m
14-15 -10.4m
13-14 - 15m
12-13 -9m
11-12 -7m

= £107m

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

ha ! i didn't bother to look up the losses each season - i went from a quote in this piece https://www.wearebrighton.com/newso...lse-we-learnt-from-brighton-2021-22-accounts/

Yep. losses in the Champ were below- (and agreed we're likely to be in profit again for 22/23 accounts due to sales, prize money, cup run etc. )

16-17 -39m
15-16 -26m
14-15 -10.4m
13-14 - 15m
12-13 -9m
11-12 -7m

= £107m

Are you quoting accounting losses or true losses. Completely different entities. One relates to tax etc the other cash flow required to keep the business going.