[Albion] Missing Midfield - The POLL

[Springal]

If we are to believe he’s lost the dressing room , fallen out with Dunk I thought it was interesting Dunk said the players had let Fabian down. Surely he’d not bothered

 

[Swegulls]

If it is disicpline then he has lost the dressing room , you can’t keep leaving your best players out

If there are rules they should apply to everyone. You just can't let people come and go as they like. In the Minteh case, some/many managers would probably have sent him home, unless he had a really, really good excuse to be late on a match day (I would have looked the door).

What's up with B & A we don't know, I assume they are injured. If they're not, good that it stays were it is, wish that would have been the case re Minteh too.

Bring on Chelsea!

 

[BNthree]

Find it hard to believe that 2 young players with good fitness records both picked up unspecified minor muscle injuries during tre time between the press conference and today.

This is where I’m at. Something doesn’t add up and in the absence of details us fans are going to be trying to fill the missing gaps in anyway we can.

 

[Super Sub]

No matter the reason, I believe that FH made a big mistake yesterday. He had the opportunity to include 2 of our new signings but instead chose not to and to play a ridiculous formation.
We all want the likes of Gomez and O‘Riley to come good but imagine how they must feel when the Manager doesn’t give them a sniff even when we lose our starting duo.
They must wonder why they came here… if we want to see the best of them or indeed anyone else, we have to give them confidence

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

No matter the reason, I believe that FH made a big mistake yesterday. He had the opportunity to include 2 of our new signings but instead chose not to and to play a ridiculous formation.
We all want the likes of Gomez and O‘Riley to come good but imagine how they must feel when the Manager doesn’t give them a sniff even when we lose our starting duo.
They must wonder why they came here… if we want to see the best of them or indeed anyone else, we have to give them confidence

Andy Naylor reports today that neither are fit to start

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I'll just say that this time two years ago we had Trossard throwing a wobbly, Caicedo being kept out of training whilst he agitated for a move and Sanchez benched and falling out with the manager. In all these cases of squad disharmony we backed our newly-appointed manager (with an identical record of 34 points from his first 23 games in charge) and not the player.

But now, with our next new manager, and with nothing other than unsubstantiated rumour of unrest, we instead place the finger of blame for alleged squad disharmony on him. All part of the intense character assassination we are seeing.

The points comparison is misleading. Under RDZ at the time the team never gave up - there always appeared to be a purpose to his madness. It was proven right by the end of the season.

With FH and his erratic team choices and substitutions there appears to be no purpose - just some bloke guessing what might work.

 

[Hometownglory]

Andy Naylor reports today that neither are fit to start

Naylor pushes the club's narrative...

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'll just say that this time two years ago we had Trossard throwing a wobbly, Caicedo being kept out of training whilst he agitated for a move and Sanchez benched and falling out with the manager. In all these cases of squad disharmony we backed our newly-appointed manager (with an identical record of 34 points from his first 23 games in charge) and not the player.

But now, with our next new manager, and with nothing other than unsubstantiated rumour of unrest, we instead place the finger of blame for alleged squad disharmony on him. All part of the intense character assassination we are seeing.

Interesting point.

 

[oldboyroy]

I do think Fabian has this ego thing. " I am the boss and I know best". His comment about no regrets with formation yesterday and he'll do it again as his selection yesterday was good enough to win the game seemed a bit strange when we got mullered!

 

[Commander]

I do think Fabian has this ego thing. " I am the boss and I know best". His comment about no regrets with formation yesterday and he'll do it again as his selection yesterday was good enough to win the game seemed a bit strange when we got mullered!

Name a successful Manager that doesn’t have that. Most of the best ones are absolute bellends really. Pep / Mourinho / RDZ etc. Would you want to be friends with those people? They’re all egotistical twats and massive bad losers. That’s how they get where they get.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

I do think Fabian has this ego thing. " I am the boss and I know best". His comment about no regrets with formation yesterday and he'll do it again as his selection yesterday was good enough to win the game seemed a bit strange when we got mullered!

Especially worrying when he has a big say in which players get binned off because he doesn't rate them

 

[ROSM]

I'll just say that this time two years ago we had Trossard throwing a wobbly, Caicedo being kept out of training whilst he agitated for a move and Sanchez benched and falling out with the manager. In all these cases of squad disharmony we backed our newly-appointed manager (with an identical record of 34 points from his first 23 games in charge) and not the player.

But now, with our next new manager, and with nothing other than unsubstantiated rumour of unrest, we instead place the finger of blame for alleged squad disharmony on him. All part of the intense character assassination we are seeing.

Not quite the same scenario as we had just come off the back of a world cup where all 3 were disappointed. Trossard because the Belgians went all Dutch and argued with each other, Sanchez because he wasn't in the starting line ups and Caicedo as he missed out on a quarter finals where he would have showcased his talents. They also saw Alexis feted on his return.

Disruption in 2 of the 3 were because they agitated for a move. The third was because he wasn't adapting to the way the manager wanted and others in his position were.

Trossard ended up falling out with senior players as well as the manager. Caicedo stayed and played superbly for the rest of the season. The third.......well I think you and I have done that argument to death and there is more chance of Trump and Hilary Clinton agreeing to dueting as Jason on Kylie on stars in their eyes than you and I agreeing on that person.

Also RDZ had lost his 1st 5 games but there was a clear, obvious and driving strategy in place. A theory, a structure, a STYLE that people were getting excited about. Chelsea home, wolves away were the road to Damascus moments like a red admiral emerging from it's Chrysalis as something beautiful, amazing, yes fragile but of wonder. At the moment we are a bit more like a clothes moth

 

[The Fits]

I'll just say that this time two years ago we had Trossard throwing a wobbly, Caicedo being kept out of training whilst he agitated for a move and Sanchez benched and falling out with the manager. In all these cases of squad disharmony we backed our newly-appointed manager (with an identical record of 34 points from his first 23 games in charge) and not the player.

But now, with our next new manager, and with nothing other than unsubstantiated rumour of unrest, we instead place the finger of blame for alleged squad disharmony on him. All part of the intense character assassination we are seeing.

No.
RDZ made an immediate impact. From the very first minute of the very first game you could see his identity on the pitch and feel it off the pitch.
FH is bringing nothing.
I don’t care what Fab says.
How he speaks. What he does with his hair. I want a manager who has a plan.

 

[trueblue]

EPL Injury Table - Premier Injuries

The latest player injuries, suspensions and absences in the English Premier League, from the most comprehensive source of football injury statistics.

www.premierinjuries.com

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Don't know how they collate these though.

Always had the impression it's collated from monitoring media reports. That said, I'm inclined to believe the injury issue. If we actually are in a situation where we've dropped 3 players in 2 matches for 'disciplinary reasons' there'd be a real problem. Other than when players were agitating for moves or when we might accept transfer bids, can't recall the last time that happened, if ever.

 

[Weststander]

Naylor pushes the club's narrative...

To do otherwise closes doors.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Three different rumours on social media about Baleba and Ayari missing. Where’s your money at?

Where's the 'They are on their way to West Ham and Everton' option?

 

[BadFish]

We are drowning in speculation at the moment. The people at the club making the decision have all the information they need to make them. We will end up driving ourselves nuts trying to second guess everything.

The club have a good record of doing the right thing, I think I will leave the decisions up to them

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

It also seems a bit unlikely that Baleba and Ayari both decided to do something which resulted in disciplinary measures needing to be taken.

Neither seems to have a record of this sort of thing.

 

[Clive Walker]

We are drowning in speculation at the moment. The people at the club making the decision have all the information they need to make them. We will end up driving ourselves nuts trying to second guess everything.

The club have a good record of doing the right thing, I think I will leave the decisions up to them

They’re making some very odd decisions at the moment. But some people think B&B make no errors.

 

[BadFish]

They’re making some very odd decisions at the moment. But some people think B&B make no errors.

They get more far right than wrong IMHO. Of course, we need to recognise it gets harder the higher up the pyramid you go.