JOLovegrove
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- Jan 30, 2012
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Some people on here are acting as if they are having to give extra money to do this. It's one minute to respect one of the greatest political figures in the 20th century. Grow up.
Some people on here are acting as if they are having to give extra money to do this. It's one minute to respect one of the greatest political figures in the 20th century. Grow up.
I'll live with it it it happens but quite what it has to do with Brighton and Hove Albion playing a football match against Leicester is beyond me.
It's massively to do with this country, cretin.
I presume from your posts you come from a rather left wing viewpoint?
I can't think of any other reason you haven't mentioned Winston Churchill as being an 'important and universally admired politician' of the 20th Century. I think he garnered quite a lot of respect, seeing as he fought against both Communism and Fascism, the two scourges of the 20th Century.
Well if they do a minutes applause tomorrow, I've no interest in it at all so I shall use that time to go and get a pie.
Churchill was rather keen on fascism in the 1920s, signed the Yalta Agreement and was not adverse to torturing Irishmen and Indians and conspiring against the last democratic government of Iran.
Churchill goes back much further than WW2,he first was a journalist in the Boer War,got held captive and escaped...The great War he was First Lord of the Admiralty and ordered the disastrous Dardenelles campaign when we lost many ships,he returned for WW2 when the signal went round the fleet 'Winnies back'...that is when his patriotic streak came to the fore. When he broadcast the whole neighbourhood went quiet to listen to his speeches....Mother use to make me sit still while he was talking...there has'nt been a leader who has not made mistakes....people are remembered for their achievements...that's what makes them 'Great'and not for mistakes.I agree with all this too, but maintain that standing up to fascism/Nazism in WW2 makes Churchill a great figure, as I said in response to jakarta's reply to my post. He asks whether I (or my posts) come from a left wing viewpoint. The answer is yes.
Churchill goes back much further than WW2,he first was a journalist in the Boer War,got held captive and escaped...The great War he was First Lord of the Admiralty and ordered the disastrous Dardenelles campaign when we lost many ships,he returned for WW2 when the signal went round the fleet 'Winnies back'...that is when his patriotic streak came to the fore. When he broadcast the whole neighbourhood went quiet to listen to his speeches....Mother use to make me sit still while he was talking...there has'nt been a leader who has not made mistakes....people are remembered for their achievements...that's what makes them 'Great'and not for mistakes.
I think that my time as youngster in WW2 I knew that...but see your very valid point and agree that might have something to do with it.Winnie wasn't black Seagull.....
I'm not applauding anyone that spent 27 years in prison
I'm not applauding anyone that spent 27 years in prison
Not even the thousands who spent years as prisoners of war?
Yeah I'd applaud Archibald Ives & Danny the tunnel king & Blythe the forger