Miners Strike

[Nibble]

See above, let's not forget she essentially engineered the Falklands conflict. Abovce are just some of the reason why if you really do support her you have no real idea of how the world works.

 

[Simster]

FFS Beach Hut, give it up.

You are abysmal at getting a point across.

I do pity you more intelligent right wingers. Beach Hut and Hove Mong and Inbred really do hamstring you at times.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

FFS Beach Hut, give it up.

You are abysmal at getting a point across.

I'm not sure he actually has a point. He's simply attention-seeking, in the same way Withdean Wanderer used to on match threads. WW , in his defence, was only a teenager though, and has largely grown out of it.

 

[Common as Mook]

I do pity you more intelligent right wingers. Beach Hut and Hove Mong and Inbred really do hamstring you at times.

The intent is there. The delivery, ain't.

 

[les dynam]

Judging from some of what I read on here I expect I will get buckets of abuse from the pro-tory mob for posting this. I am in the middle of reading David Peace's book GB84 which is all about the miners strike and have been looking at footage on Youtube. I came across this haunting piece, beautiful music and sobering images. I truly hate Thatcher for what she did to these people and how she completely destroyed the relationship between communities and the police in the pit areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOVwewzTi-8&feature=fvwrel

Not going to read a single post in this thread... as it will be stuffed full of people's who's opinions are just plain wrong. Hornblower - GB84 is a crackin' book, and i agree with you completely, Thatcher and her cronies are utter scum.

 

[KNC]

I would, remind me where are those weapons of mass destruction ?

Probably went down with the Belgrano. Which was sailing towards the Malvinas. Oh no, it was sailing away.

 

[simmo]

Yes there have always been greedy people but what you are failing to grasp is the concept that Thatcher encouraged them and it had a devastating effect on the vulnerable and less well off in the UK while amassing vast wealth for her and her cronies. She figuratively reached into the teapots of old ladies and took their money, just like CAmeron is doing now. To defend Thatcher is to declare yourself a wanker.

People don't need a Prime Minister to "encourage them" to be or make them greedy, the majority of people in this country have no interest in politics what so ever.

You are just rolling out left wing cliches and basically name calling. Took money out of old ladies teapots?? What??

For the left Thatcher is the bogey woman whom all ills of Britain from 1979 onwards can be blamed on. For the rest of us she is someone whom left office 20 plus years ago, since which Labour have been in for the majority of time since whom led us into a war based on a falsehood and then a massive recession.

Have a good evening and come on the lads

 

[Simster]

The intent is there. The delivery, ain't.

He hasn't said anything resembling a POINT.

 

[wakeytom]

Unions simply do not work, the inadvertently closed the mines. Why you may ask do I say that Unions do not work especially in the case of the miners - Unions constantly want more pay for workers (they often wrap it up under "working conditions" saying more pay is needed as they are bad) which drives up the price of production and break even points, the price then goes too far above what is in the market, which in turn drives demand elsewhere.

I personally do not think that Unions as they stand work, and in the case of Scargill he pretty much became a dictator, when many workers wanted to continue to mine he turned his following sheep against them and used terms such as "Scabs" to tarnish them.

 

[Napper]

Beach Hut is like a spoilt 13 year old, with his fingers in his ears shouting na na na na na

Obviously been brainwashed from Tory/Thatcher loving parents

Mugging himself right off in this thread.

 

[Woodingdeanseagulls]

And let us not forget the intimidation and violence by striking miners against those that wanted to work to feed their families and to some extremes the deaths of working miners who felt it was their right to work as they had not been balloted. I guess the Thatcher haters would blame her for that to, as opposed to the pseudo styled Stalin leader of the NUM.

Spot on!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Beach Hut is like a spoilt 13 year old, with his fingers in his ears shouting na na na na na

Obviously been brainwashed from Tory/Thatcher loving parents

Mugging himself right off in this thread.

I feel a bit sorry for him to be honest. Public meltdowns are never a good thing.

 

[Nibble]

People don't need a Prime Minister to "encourage them" to be or make them greedy, the majority of people in this country have no interest in politics what so ever.

You are just rolling out left wing cliches and basically name calling. Took money out of old ladies teapots?? What??

For the left Thatcher is the bogey woman whom all ills of Britain from 1979 onwards can be blamed on. For the rest of us she is someone whom left office 20 plus years ago, since which Labour have been in for the majority of time since whom led us into a war based on a falsehood and then a massive recession.

Have a good evening and come on the lads

People who are greedy and then basically get government backing to rip people off are going to be encouraged. So you're wrong there. I am name calling in that by supporting her it displays a certain mentality. That of a wanker.

Read the 20 points I posted earlier if you want to see what a warmonger Thatcher was.The legacy of Thatcher does still resonate. Her government pretty much ruined the lives of the young and the poor in this country and that is still relevant today my friend, whether you choose to see through your right wing mist or not.

 

[looney]

[MENTION=5707]Nibble[/MENTION] you are confused.

Thatcher engineered the miners strike if anything as she started stockpiling coal as soon as she got in and had the memory of being a member of the last Government that was brought down undemocraticaly by a union, ignoring the fact all the unions probably brought down the Callaghan Gov vis the winter of discontent. I met the Yank Thatcher put in charge of the Coal Board on the Tube(McGregor?), had a chat and he seemed a nice enough chap.

 

[Nibble]

Looney you make no sense, hence my confusion.

 

[Chicken Run]

Blair led Britain to war under false pretense in both Iraq and Afghanistan, both of which were not only illegal but strategically disastrous. He also deregulated the city and allowed the banks to determine economic policy that ended up in one of the worst crisis in British history.

Blair's economic policies have polarized society to the point where the divide between rich and poor is greater than in any time in human history, and the ladder upon which he climbed to get to the top was kicked down one rung at a time. Free university is a thing of the past, and unlike Blair, today's brightest must go into massive debt if they have a chance of financial success. Property prices have ballooned to the point where many workers cannot afford to live in the city they work in, and wages for the majority of the population has stagnated even though the cost of living is rising.

While Blair may still think he 'did the right thing', most of the people he presided in power over don't. While he insists that everyone outside of Britain loves him, he wasn't their prime minister, so it doesn't really matter. Hundreds and thousands of lives have been lost through his decisions, and millions of people have suffered immeasurably due to the economic implosion that he helped create.

The fact that he is earning millions of pounds through speaking and advising banks just makes it that much more offensive, and he shouldn't spend too much time wondering why the public harbours such visceral resentment.

Post of the decade.

 

[Triggaaar]

Remind me - was it Thatcher who called the miners out on an unofficial and unballoted strike or was it Arthur Scargill? A lot of the unpleasantness was due to the actions of the strikers against those who wanted to carry on working because they had never had a chance to vote for or against the strike. Also Scargill was determined to bring down the (democratically elected) Tory governement because he didn't like it. Pit closures were just his excuse to get a strike going which he thought would bring the country to it's knees.

Exactly. Some miners wanted their pit to remain open even after it ran dry, and the behaviour of strikers to those that wanted to work was disgusting.

 

[pork pie]

Judging from some of what I read on here I expect I will get buckets of abuse from the pro-tory mob for posting this. I am in the middle of reading David Peace's book GB84 which is all about the miners strike and have been looking at footage on Youtube. I came across this haunting piece, beautiful music and sobering images. I truly hate Thatcher for what she did to these people and how she completely destroyed the relationship between communities and the police in the pit areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOVwewzTi-8&feature=fvwrel

I was talking with a senior Notts Police Officer the other week, who was heavily involved in the events as a young cop. The scum miners deserved all that they got by all accounts. However, apparently the Met Police Officers who came up to "help", behaved like total animals because they resented being there and were being subjected to disgusting attacks by the miners.

Maggie was certainly correct to get our country back from union control. The mines had had their day and wasting money on keeping them open could not be justified (who the hell would want to work under those conditions in the 20th Century?). BUT, it would appear that the events on the ground were close to war.

 

[public school boy]

Maggie's finest hour. I remember cheering when I heard that The Miners had been defeated.

 

[looney]

Looney you make no sense, hence my confusion.

Dodge noted, as well as your Falklands conspiracy theories.