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Milliband about to get torn a new one by Paxman on C4 now
- Thread starter Bry Nylon
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Deputy political editor of The Telegraph, James Kirkup, reckons Miliband won
"Ed Miliband has more to be pleased with than David Cameron. That's because what really counts is expectations, how you perform relative to how what people expect of you.
We're used to Mr Cameron being calm and assured, so his nervous and even faltering performance under Jeremy Paxman's superb scrutiny was a surprise, a negative for him that the return of his usual polish and confidence when dealing with the audience couldn't quite offset.
Mr Miliband, by contrast, entered the room with a reputation for being a hopeless ditherer, but failed to live up to it, by being warmer and more assertive than many watching would have expected. His frankness about Labour's past failings and his relationship with his brother will not hurt him either. He even stood up to Paxman's withering gaze with at least as much confidence as Mr Cameron."
"Ed Miliband has more to be pleased with than David Cameron. That's because what really counts is expectations, how you perform relative to how what people expect of you.
We're used to Mr Cameron being calm and assured, so his nervous and even faltering performance under Jeremy Paxman's superb scrutiny was a surprise, a negative for him that the return of his usual polish and confidence when dealing with the audience couldn't quite offset.
Mr Miliband, by contrast, entered the room with a reputation for being a hopeless ditherer, but failed to live up to it, by being warmer and more assertive than many watching would have expected. His frankness about Labour's past failings and his relationship with his brother will not hurt him either. He even stood up to Paxman's withering gaze with at least as much confidence as Mr Cameron."
mikeyjh
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Independent & the Torygraph both give it to Ed. There really are some one eyed folks around..... We know the intellect is on the left, you don't have to make it so obvious for us.
Vegas Seagull
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- Jul 10, 2009
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Guardian/ICM debate poll result
Cameron 54%
Milliband 46%
Cameron 54%
Milliband 46%
Guardian apparently gave it to Cameron.
Nigel Farage reckons Ed won and gives Cameron 4/10 and Miliband 7/10.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Read my post again and understand the meaning, you rubbished my post that the BBC2 political editor said Miliband won as have others now as it didn't suit what you or others wanted to happen
What are your views on the Guardian's poll on tonight's debate?
Do we know if the Guardian has any political leaning at all?
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Not Andy Naylor
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Twitter seems to think the reverse ...
You're going all Ed and making it up. Bless you and bless your types.
I said the view of the one person you were quoting was as worthy as everyone else's.
Bless.
Bless.
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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Chose the wrong brother.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Fair enough, shows the Guardian is willing to be impartial unlike others
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Of the usual suspects who report and comment on such things most are calling it a marginal Ed victory. Odd the Guardian isn't.
Anyone watching BBC2? That woman clearly has a serious ear wax issue
I'd still f*ck it ahead of the dark-haired one.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
As do the first few members of the audience on Question Time.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Of course Cameron could have had the chance to further the debate one on one with Miliband if he hadn't bottled it
Diego Napier
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- Mar 27, 2010
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Blue rinsed poodles you mean surely?