Mike Tindall drink driving ban

[Tooting Gull]

He's been banned for three years for drink driving last year, but there's a bit more to this case than just 'hang the b*****d'.

The guy was driving at 10.45am after drinking the night before and was over the limit (not by much, but over nonetheless).

But apparently it was shown that he was in he 'lowest 2 per cent' of the country in terms of alcohol elimination rate from his bloodstream.

How do you find out what your alcohol elimination rate is? This is a huge bloke and a hardened drinker. How long do the rest of us have to leave it the day after before we can drive?

 

[Man of Harveys]

The only time I've ever come close to drink-driving was when visiting champagne houses in Eparnay and as I wondered around, I considered going to a police station to be breath-tested before considering driving: if it had been over the limit, no problem, I'd have found a hotel and stayed there.

Point is, can one actually do this, check with the police just to see if you're over the limit, and obviously not get into trouble if you are but don't drive? Those little self-testing devices you can get in Halfords don't look that reliable.

 

[algie]

I thought you could buy your own test kits nowdays?

 

[Tooting Gull]

The only time I've ever come close to drink-driving was when visiting champagne houses in Eparnay and as I wondered around, I considered going to a police station to be breath-tested before considering driving:.

My analysis is that if you were on to your third magnum of Dom Perignon, you might have been wise to head for the auberge.

 

[Man of Harveys]

My analysis is that if you were on to your third magnum of Dom Perignon, you might have been wise to head for the auberge.

It was the purchase of two of those bottles of Perrier Jouet with the painted flowers on the side that did it: the equally fruity-on-the-palate serving girl just wouldn't leave me alone after that.

 

[Simster]

It was the purchase of two of those bottles of Perrier Jouet with the painted flowers on the side that did it: the equally fruity-on-the-palate serving girl just wouldn't leave me alone after that.

pics?

 

[Man of Harveys]

pics?

After they stitch-up they did in the '20s on (my look-a-like) Fatty Arbuckle? No way

 

[Cian]

The cheap test kits in Halfords, etc have been tested and shown to be utterly USELESS.

The really expensive units (90 quid upwards) have usually been calibrated to some effective level but they degrade as they get older/more used.

 

[Skint Gull]

He's been banned for three years for drink driving last year, but there's a bit more to this case than just 'hang the b*****d'.

The guy was driving at 10.45am after drinking the night before and was over the limit (not by much, but over nonetheless).

But apparently it was shown that he was in he 'lowest 2 per cent' of the country in terms of alcohol elimination rate from his bloodstream.

How do you find out what your alcohol elimination rate is? This is a huge bloke and a hardened drinker. How long do the rest of us have to leave it the day after before we can drive?

I heard that he'd got 3 years but didn't know the story, I presumed it must have been a second offence or summin? I was just about to write that seems very harsh but have just looked it up and it was his second offence so I have a bit less sypathy with the sentance.

See this for more as there's a bit more to this than was originally posted:
News - Rugby: Tindall get three-year driving ban

 

[clapham_gull]

He's been banned for three years for drink driving last year, but there's a bit more to this case than just 'hang the b*****d'.

The guy was driving at 10.45am after drinking the night before and was over the limit (not by much, but over nonetheless).

But apparently it was shown that he was in he 'lowest 2 per cent' of the country in terms of alcohol elimination rate from his bloodstream.

How do you find out what your alcohol elimination rate is? This is a huge bloke and a hardened drinker. How long do the rest of us have to leave it the day after before we can drive?

I read he has been done before, so therefore not surprising the length of ban.

He also had a lot to drink the night before.

His inability to break down alcohol was related to an injury he sustained.

 

[Slowhand]

He could be in jail like Luke McCormick but all he got was a three year ban.

And he has been done before, I'd say he is just an idiot and deserves what he gets!

 

[Pavilionaire]

I think if I was recuperating from a liver problem I probably wouldn't be getting shitfaced at the races.

We don't know whether Tindall knew that his liver couldn't break down the alcohol properly. If I was a hardened drinker like him I'd probably have asked the doc about all this stuff.

On balance I think the guy deserves what he got. Harsh, but fair.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

I think if I was recuperating from a liver problem I probably wouldn't be getting shitfaced at the races.

We don't know whether Tindall knew that his liver couldn't break down the alcohol properly. If I was a hardened drinker like him I'd probably have asked the doc about all this stuff.

On balance I think the guy deserves what he got. Harsh, but fair.

I expect his Doctor was pretty specific on the booze issue. I don't know what is wrong with Tindalls liver, but if mine was iffy I'd probably lay off the Ale.

Actually no, I probably wouldn't, thinking about it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I heard that he'd got 3 years but didn't know the story, I presumed it must have been a second offence or summin? I was just about to write that seems very harsh but have just looked it up and it was his second offence so I have a bit less sypathy with the sentance.

See this for more as there's a bit more to this than was originally posted:
News - Rugby: Tindall get three-year driving ban

I dont know how sentencing works but I understand he was driving very dangerously as well. I understand he was driving down the fast lane then cut across 3 lanes and braked to prevent over-shooting a service station. This seems pretty silly to me, I'd ban him for this alone.

Maybe the excess booze angle was easier to prosecute on?

 

[Pavilionaire]

I understand he was driving down the fast lane then cut across 3 lanes and braked to prevent over-shooting a service station.

...before slipping the ball inside to Greenwood for the try?!...

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Ha!

 

[BensGrandad]

Isnt he the boyfriend of Zara Phillips (Princess Anne's daughter) could that have had some effect on the somewhat lenient sentence given.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

He's been banned for three years for drink driving last year, but there's a bit more to this case than just 'hang the b*****d'.

The guy was driving at 10.45am after drinking the night before and was over the limit (not by much, but over nonetheless).

But apparently it was shown that he was in he 'lowest 2 per cent' of the country in terms of alcohol elimination rate from his bloodstream.

How do you find out what your alcohol elimination rate is? This is a huge bloke and a hardened drinker. How long do the rest of us have to leave it the day after before we can drive?

I would say that we only have his word for it in terms of when he stopped drinking and how much. I don't know if he's being honest any more than you do, but IMHO if he had been knocking back the pints until 5am, he's unlikely to admit it to the press (wouldn't want to embarrass the in-laws, would he?).

Having carried out countless breath tests on people, they quite regularly lie about what they've had, even once they've been proven to be over the limit. I don't know who they're trying to convince: the police or themselves. Makes no odds once the machine proves you've crossed the line. If I had a quid for every drink driver who's told me they can't believe their luck as they've only had one or two pints....yeah right fella...that explains the stench of liquor oozing out of every pore in your body then. Not necessarily saying that Tindall is or isn't, but just suggesting that you might not want to take his statement at face value.

This is,the second time he's been prosecuted for drink-driving I believe, so I admit I'm lacking in a great deal of sympathy for him...besides, it's not as though he'll be struggling to get around, is it.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I dont know how sentencing works but I understand he was driving very dangerously as well. I understand he was driving down the fast lane then cut across 3 lanes and braked to prevent over-shooting a service station. This seems pretty silly to me, I'd ban him for this alone.

Maybe the excess booze angle was easier to prosecute on?

The dangerous driving element is a matter of opinion, based on witness statements and degrees of danger etc. Drink driving is a matter of fact: either you're over the limit or you're not. They would only go with a DD charge as well if he injured or killed somebody, or damaged their property as a result. Also, a DD charge where nobody was hurt/nothing was damaged wouldn't realistically add anything to the sentence, hence they'll only go for the DIC.

In terms of the sentence, the guidelines state that the defendant's demeanour- ie remorse, acceptance/denial etc- is taken into account, along with any previous- which in his case is highly relevant as he's been done for it before- and the degree of intoxication- ie if you're miles over you've clearly been utterly reckless about it, whereas if you were only slightly over you might claim it was a small error of judgement.

Three years sounds about right to me.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

I would say that we only have his word for it in terms of when he stopped drinking and how much. I don't know if he's being honest any more than you do, but IMHO if he had been knocking back the pints until 5am, he's unlikely to admit it to the press (wouldn't want to embarrass the in-laws, would he?).

Having carried out countless breath tests on people, they quite regularly lie about what they've had, even once they've been proven to be over the limit. I don't know who they're trying to convince: the police or themselves. Makes no odds once the machine proves you've crossed the line. If I had a quid for every drink driver who's told me they can't believe their luck as they've only had one or two pints....yeah right fella...that explains the stench of liquor oozing out of every pore in your body then. Not necessarily saying that Tindall is or isn't, but just suggesting that you might not want to take his statement at face value.

This is,the second time he's been prosecuted for drink-driving I believe, so I admit I'm lacking in a great deal of sympathy for him...besides, it's not as though he'll be struggling to get around, is it.

Whatever happened to the good old days when the bobbies would accept "a little something" for the Policemans Ball and wave the happy drunkard on his way?