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Zeberdi

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Where are they supposed to go? Desperate civilians being moved en masse from pillar to post around the land that rightly belongs to them to make way for its continued destruction. South is Egypt, North Gaza is demolished with little infrastructure left (and further away from aid travelling into Rafah) East is Israel and West is the sea. 1.9 million from a population of 2 million now displaced and thousands at immediate risk of starvation.

Netanyhu’s punishment of Gazans knows no bounds - to say it is ‘over the top’ is an understatement.
 


knocky1

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Where are they supposed to go? Desperate civilians being moved en masse from pillar to post around the land that rightly belongs to them to make way for its continued destruction. South is Egypt, North Gaza is demolished with little infrastructure left (and further away from aid travelling into Rafah) East is Israel and West is the sea. 1.9 million from a population of 2 million now displaced and thousands at immediate risk of starvation.

Netanyhu’s punishment of Gazans knows no bounds - to say it is ‘over the top’ is an understatement.
Be careful @Harry Wilson's tackle will tell you to get a grip.
 




Zeberdi

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Be careful @Harry Wilson's tackle will tell you to get a grip.
I may not agree with everything @Harry Wilson's tackle says but I respect him enough to allow him to express his views about the war in Gaza without needing to make personal attacks or troll him - I am pretty sure the feeling is mutual too…it is a shame more NSCers can’t be like that.

Btw - The UK and the US most certainly don’t give Netanyahu full ‘support’ now - in fact it is becoming increasingly obvious the current Biden administration does not offer unconditional support for the war in Gaza and most certainly differ with Netanyahu on what a peaceful settlement would look like. Trump however, is likely to support Israel and reactivate the peace plan he devised with Netanyahu that does not recognise independence for the Palestinians and gifted a third of the occupied West Bank to Israel. The UK just parrots the US.
 
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Harry Wilson's tackle

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I may not agree with everything @Harry Wilson's tackle says but I respect him enough to allow him to express his views about the war in Gaza without needing to make personal attacks or troll him - I am pretty sure the feeling is mutual too…it is a shame more NSCers can’t be like that.

Btw - The UK and the US most certainly don’t give Netanyahu full ‘support’ now - in fact it is becoming increasingly obvious the current Biden administration does not offer unconditional support for the war in Gaza and most certainly differ with Netanyahu on what a peaceful settlement would look like. Trump however, is likely to support Israel and reactivate the peace plan he devised with Netanyahu that does not recognise independence for the Palestinians and gifted a third of the occupied West Bank to Israel. The UK just parrots the US.
Yes mate. Your posts are thoughtful and to my recollection we are 99.9% on the same page. Possibly 101%. Frightening :lolol:
 


Westdene Seagull

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herecomesaregular

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Im afraid this story, which I have been following for the past few days, has tipped the scales for me. What utter scum. A 6 year old girl and the two ambulance crew that were supposedly given passage to rescue her.


 




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Westdene Seagull

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Im afraid this story, which I have been following for the past few days, has tipped the scales for me. What utter scum. A 6 year old girl and the two ambulance crew that were supposedly given passage to rescue her.


Proves what utter scum the IDF really are. Much like the video on the BBC / CNN around them destroying cemetries claiming theres tunnels underneath and then unwilling to provide the evidence to journalists. It's quite clear now that Israel's plan is to raize Gaza to the ground and either kill every Palestinian or drive them out.
 


aolstudios

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Proves what utter scum the IDF really are. Much like the video on the BBC / CNN around them destroying cemetries claiming theres tunnels underneath and then unwilling to provide the evidence to journalists. It's quite clear now that Israel's plan is to raize Gaza to the ground and either kill every Palestinian or drive them out.
They could've done that in the first week, with no Israeli casualties if that were true.
Boots on the ground actually means less civilian casualties & more for IDF
 




Westdene Seagull

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They could've done that in the first week, with no Israeli casualties if that were true.
Boots on the ground actually means less civilian casualties & more for IDF
Tell that to the six year old they've just murdered.
 


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Stephen Nolan nailing it tonight. He proper roughed up the Israeli spokesman (who handled himself quite well, I thought). Then, the Palestinian, after cataloguing the plight of his compadres, replied to Nolan's question about the rape and mutilation of hostages taken by Hamas with: "What do you expect?". Then he started shouting.

I am not happy to see the Palestinians wiped out by genocide but.....the rape and mutilation of hostages is exactly what I expect from Hamas, and it plays right into Bibi's hands. Madness.
 
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BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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The world would actually be a safer place if Israel did not exist.
About a 1/4 of the world may well have said the same about England for many hundreds of years.

Stupid thing to say though.
 






Zeberdi

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The world would actually be a safer place if Israel did not exist.
The world would be a ‘safer place’ if humans did not exist tbh.

However, as I have said before, ‘Israel’ is not the problem, it is the far right ideology that has swung to power in recent years that is the problem. Even then, they are not the only protagonists here. Iran backed terror groups, Islamic Jihadists operating independently of Iran, forces protecting Western ‘interests’ in the region, forces representing Russian interest in the region - the ME is an extremely complicated melting pot of competing geo-political interests, to suggest one country is responsible for the current instability is naive - to suggest even indirectly, that the ME would be safer if any one of those Countries did not exist, is tantamount to justifying a genocidal solution to the problems which is entirely abhorrent as I am sure you would realise if you had thought your comment through.
 


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