[Football] Michael Oliver

[Machiavelli]

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Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

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SENDING-OFF OFFENCES​

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A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off:​

• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence (except a goalkeeper within their penalty area)

What is 'a handball offence':

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HANDLING THE BALL​

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For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.​

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It is an offence if a player:​

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• deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
• touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
• scores in the opponents' goal:
  • directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
  • immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental

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The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area. If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction. However, if the offence is playing the ball a second time (with or without the hand/arm) after a restart before it touches another player, the goalkeeper must be sanctioned if the offence stops a promising attack or denies an opponent or the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.​

Whether it was deliberate or not is a moot point. If he has awarded a penalty for handball, then a handball offence has obviously occurred. If he is deemed to have stopped a goal, even if the handling is not 'deliberate', it is a red card offence. I've only seen it live, so I would have to assume Oliver felt the shot was going over and thus not denying a goal.

Have just had another look at Undav's shot and it looked as though it was going in so, I stand corrected, and it should have been a red.

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Thought he had a good game, managed the time wasting but did feel that second penalty shout was an arm in n unnatural position and, as it was in the box, should've been a pen.

 

[Si Gull]

Should've addressed the time-wasting and didn't add enough time at the end, but he was decent on the whole.

The 'handball' just after the pen looked more like a pen than the actual pen from where I sat (in the South Stand to be fair).

It was a penalty but Oliver/VAR didn't have the balls to give it.

 

[Weststander]

Struggling to understand why the handball was not a red card, big error from ref.
That aside not the worst referee performance we have had this season.

And VAR.

 

[amexer]

anybody got a video of 2nd penalty

 

[Rookie]

What is winding me up more than anything else is that players are taking advantage of a serious issue like concussion to feign head injuries knowing the game must be stopped.
It doesn’t matter if they have to go off for 2 seconds it stops the flow of the game. Absolutely no idea how to stop it, but it needs to be looked at.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

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Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct

IFAB Laws of the Game

www.thefa.com

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SENDING-OFF OFFENCES​

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A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off:​

• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence (except a goalkeeper within their penalty area)

What is 'a handball offence':

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HANDLING THE BALL​

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For the purposes of determining handball offences, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit. Not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence.​

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It is an offence if a player:​

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• deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball
• touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised
• scores in the opponents' goal:
  • directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
  • immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental

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The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area. If the goalkeeper handles the ball inside their penalty area when not permitted to do so, an indirect free kick is awarded but there is no disciplinary sanction. However, if the offence is playing the ball a second time (with or without the hand/arm) after a restart before it touches another player, the goalkeeper must be sanctioned if the offence stops a promising attack or denies an opponent or the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.​

Whether it was deliberate or not is a moot point. If he has awarded a penalty for handball, then a handball offence has obviously occurred. If he is deemed to have stopped a goal, even if the handling is not 'deliberate', it is a red card offence. I've only seen it live, so I would have to assume Oliver felt the shot was going over and thus not denying a goal.

Maybe he’s watched the Undav highlight reel?

 

[LamieRobertson]

What is winding me up more than anything else is that players are taking advantage of a serious issue like concussion to feign head injuries knowing the game must be stopped.
It doesn’t matter if they have to go off for 2 seconds it stops the flow of the game. Absolutely no idea how to stop it, but it needs to be looked at.

Agreed…something brought into help/protect is clearly being abused

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

People saying he was ok fail to realise he missed the handball, how? Why?

Also once he watched on the monitor he made a huge thing of look at me look at me before giving it.

He had one big decision to make and failed to until guided to the monitor.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

What is winding me up more than anything else is that players are taking advantage of a serious issue like concussion to feign head injuries knowing the game must be stopped.
It doesn’t matter if they have to go off for 2 seconds it stops the flow of the game. Absolutely no idea how to stop it, but it needs to be looked at.

Simple always stretchered off and assessed by an independent doctor.

Refusal to go off is a red card offence.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I rate him normally, but thought he was poor today.

The one I didn’t get was in injury time when he failed to play the advantage, when we were breaking.

Would like to see the second hand ball again.

 

[Hugo Rune]

On balance, I thought Oliver was as a **** today, an awful *********, an unregarded **** bean. A total cheating *** bucket. A big ****ing ass flower, a witless flower-turnip ****sucker. What a b******!

 

[Sheebo]

Shocking - once again an anti Albion ref - getting silly now.

 

[Pondicherry]

Shouldn't VAR have intervened twice on the penalty decision. Once to alert that the handball was a penalty and a second time when Oliver gave a yellow to correct it to a red? Now that would have been amusing.

 

[Justice]

Shocking - once again an anti Albion ref - getting silly now.

We are to high up in the table and it’s not going to the PL plan. I don’t believe that line at Palace was a genuine mistake with three of them watching the same game, Brentford should be down to 10 and a second pen awarded. I thought they had given up on the back pass rule that must of been the first one given for the season.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I'm a bit concerned that you're turning soft.

I'm a bit surprised the Pontus hasn't got a thread. He was very naughty today. Did the Harry trick and rolled back on the pitch.

Just for you

What a tit …went nearly half the length of the pitch …seemingly after Michael who was reviewing the penalty decision…then got all ‘manly’ on the halfway line

 

[hans kraay fan club]

It doesn't matter if it was centimetres, he was stretching his arms out. Just like a keeper who makes himself big when a shot is imminent.

Looking at the highlights there, I think he doesn’t send him off, because he thinks that Raya may very well save it - this he’s NOT denied a goal.

 

[Eeyore]

On balance, I thought Oliver was as a **** today, an awful *********, an unregarded **** bean. A total cheating *** bucket. A big ****ing ass flower, a witless flower-turnip ****sucker. What a b******!

Apart from that he refereed very well.

But, yes, I agree. No other team has decisions going against them ever. And it's clear that any fan 100 yards from the action can see better.

Take the second penalty call. Even the commentators, ALBION commentators too, were saying it probably wasn't. Even Johnny and Warren have fallen under the anti-Albion spell.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

I’m starting to think it’s not actually the ref’s that are useless but more they have been told to completely ignore things.
Every single week and in most games you have players flopping to the floor and feigning injury and the officials do nothing to stop it. It’s is spoiling the game (not just our games)

Especially the pair who collapsed near the goal line......in the good old days, the ref would tell the medics to treat them off the pitch.....they soon recovered !!

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Funny how opinions differ, I thought for a ref who went to the World Cup, he was inconsistent......he fell for the conning of their players and the incident where he called play back for our free kick, when we were on the attack, was way out of order................