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Mental health. Please talk to others.



BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
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In a strange coincidence I've just booked myself in for a mental health MOT; first time I've taken a step to actually talking to someone outside of my family about what's going on upstairs.

It's good to see threads like this crop up. It's reassuring to know that it isn't considered weakness to ask for help.
 






Lower West Stander

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Mar 25, 2012
4,753
Back in Sussex
There's a very good article/interview in the Guardian today about Chris Kirkland. "I couldn't wait to go to bed, and then I didn't want to wake up in the morning."
I guess it helps illustrate that, if you have tendencies towards mental health problems, the possibly turbulent and uncertain nature of a career in Football and its associated pressures may not be the best place to be.

And the fans - or possibly fear of what fans might think - obviously got to him. It made me think what effect people on here might have had on CMS, or Ashley Barnes, or Chris O'Grady or more recently even people like Maty Ryan, Davy Propper and Pascal Gross with unfair, damning and often unjustified criticism

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/11/chris-kirkland-depression-interview

Yes - I wonder how that idiot Warnock feels after accusing him of milking it when that Leeds fan ran on the pitch and whacked him.
 


pearl

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May 3, 2016
13,127
Behind My Eyes
In a strange coincidence I've just booked myself in for a mental health MOT; first time I've taken a step to actually talking to someone outside of my family about what's going on upstairs.

It's good to see threads like this crop up. It's reassuring to know that it isn't considered weakness to ask for help.

It's good to read posts like yours too :thumbsup:
 


pearl

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May 3, 2016
13,127
Behind My Eyes
Hi all, I have just completed a blog on suicide and masculinity, if you could spare a short moment to read and share then i would really appreciate it: http://freedomtoteach.collins.co.uk/7972-2/

Thanks all x

Having lost someone who was brought up to never show their emotions I can identify with this. I've noticed younger people seem to be more 'gender neutral' (not sure that's the right term) and are more open with each other. I think this is a good thing.
 




Malonia

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Nov 1, 2009
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100% correct - Mental health issues have nothing at all to do with weakness.

As I posted last month: in the last year I have battled (& hopefully beaten) bowel & liver cancer, coming to terms with the result of the treatment (permanent colostomy bag) and the deep depression & insomnia it all triggered & separated from my wife & kids.

I'm not restating this for any praise or out of self-pity (though I've been consumed with that at times).

I'm repeating this because I'm getting through this by talking and seeking help. And by doing so the love and support I've received has been overwhelming & has given me the strength to carry on.
 


Wilko

LUZZING chairs about
Sep 19, 2003
9,927
BN1
Having lost someone who was brought up to never show their emotions I can identify with this. I've noticed younger people seem to be more 'gender neutral' (not sure that's the right term) and are more open with each other. I think this is a good thing.

Indeed, a male student I teach was upset the other day as he is living away from home (from Malaysia and studying in Brighton, he is only 16). I was delighted to see his male friends around him comforting him and giving him a hug, another mate went and got him an ice cream from the canteen. Back in the day I think this kid would have got a ribbing, a few digs and called a bender for crying so overtly, it really was lovely to see.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
53,183
Goldstone
It's reassuring to know that it isn't considered weakness to ask for help.
I'd have guessed the opposite. And not just for mental health, there are those that don't like going to the doctor for any problems, maybe sometimes because they want to be strong and deal with things themselves, and other times because they're scared of the possible outcomes.

Brains are complicated things, look after them.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
There's a very good article/interview in the Guardian today about Chris Kirkland. "I couldn't wait to go to bed, and then I didn't want to wake up in the morning."
I guess it helps illustrate that, if you have tendencies towards mental health problems, the possibly turbulent and uncertain nature of a career in Football and its associated pressures may not be the best place to be.

And the fans - or possibly fear of what fans might think - obviously got to him. It made me think what effect people on here might have had on CMS, or Ashley Barnes, or Chris O'Grady or more recently even people like Maty Ryan, Davy Propper and Pascal Gross with unfair, damning and often unjustified criticism

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/11/chris-kirkland-depression-interview

This is an interview with John Sullivan, one of our youth team keepers, which talks about his depression, and why he quit football. He is now a very successful estate agent in Las Vegas.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/143...depression_is_widespread_in_English_football/
 


Fungus

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May 21, 2004
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Truro
In a strange coincidence I've just booked myself in for a mental health MOT; first time I've taken a step to actually talking to someone outside of my family about what's going on upstairs.

It's good to see threads like this crop up. It's reassuring to know that it isn't considered weakness to ask for help.

I've not heard of a "mental health MOT" before - I assume that's a first-step assessment with a specialist? Anyway, good for you, and good luck. :thumbsup:
 


BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,056
I've not heard of a "mental health MOT" before - I assume that's a first-step assessment with a specialist? Anyway, good for you, and good luck. :thumbsup:

Yeah that's it exactly. It's just something I've called it in my head whilst weighing up whether I should go for one or not.
 






Fungus

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May 21, 2004
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Truro
Yeah that's it exactly. It's just something I've called it in my head whilst weighing up whether I should go for one or not.

Actually, that sounds like a good term - something we should all have once a year! That would prevent an awful lot of anguish.
 


DavidinSouthampton

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Jan 3, 2012
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maffew

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Dec 10, 2003
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Worcester England
In a strange coincidence I've just booked myself in for a mental health MOT; first time I've taken a step to actually talking to someone outside of my family about what's going on upstairs.

It's good to see threads like this crop up. It's reassuring to know that it isn't considered weakness to ask for help.

you can talk tp me if you want to pm please do :)
 




The Upper Library

New member
May 23, 2013
675
Last year I was diagnosed with depression having previously never having any mental health issues. at my lowest point I phoned the samaritans - I didn't know what else to do. That was one of the best decisions of my life. The chance to just talk was like a pressure valve was released . It was the first and crucial step to me seeking help and support.
To cut a long story short the rest of last year felt like a gradual journey back to somewhere near my norm. Now I feel 95% there / but I am aware that there is a chance I might have a tussle with it again. The difference this time is that I now know how powerful talking to someone is. The Samaritans are just a wonderful service that I cannot thank enough


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lawros left foot

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Jun 11, 2011
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Worthing
I have had a serious heart condition for 10 years that has impacted on my life quite a lot, thankfully though, i have had no mental health problems, but, nearly every time I've had another check up,or an episode, the medics have been concerned with my mental state, viz a viz depression etc. I am under the impression that they feel I should have some problems, and, are quite surprised I don't.
 


FatSuperman

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Feb 25, 2016
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41599714

Really interesting read this morning. My wife has had unbelievable anxiety issues, since our youngest was born a couple of years ago, it's been seriously tough and we're still at the start of the journey. She's only just accepted she needs to talk to someone - her first appointment is three hours from now. The struggles for the individual are unimaginable, but the added pressure that puts on your family is easy to underestimate. She finds it very difficult to leave the house, and since I work in London she panics when I have to leave to go to work - she's convinced something bad is going to happen. She incessantly reads the news and social media looking out for terrorist attacks etc. She freaks out if a helicopter, or plane flies overhead. Occasionally a chinook flies near by where we live, no idea what they are up to but those are the worst times as she thinks it means impending war.

I guess it's hard to identify these feelings once they start in yourself, or in others. I'm really hopeful that today goes well and she's not disheartened by it.
 


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