[Politics] May - In or Out?

[Titanic]

Plus ca change...

 

[Simster]

Do you do anything other than read, and regurgitate, stuff from those whose views you agree with?

It strikes me as such as a sad and bitter little world that you seem to inhabit.

Frankly, he's absolutely no worse than anyone else. I don't really understand why you always take issue with Ernest.

 

[Hastings gull]

Any mug who feels sorry for her can get f***ed , hostile environment and now this. She is as hard hearted as it comes and karma is hopefully going to make her life as miserable now as she has made others

What a sad little nondescript you must be - all you seem to be capable of , and it isn't much, is more and more bile.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Plus ca change...

If only there was some way of seeing if that would play out across the whole electorate.........

 

[Ernest]

Frankly, he's absolutely no worse than anyone else. I don't really understand why you always take issue with Ernest.

TBH neither do I , maybe he would be in a sad and bitter little world if he or one of his family was disabled and trying to deal with the DWP and the NHS waiting months for an appointment

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Strangely, it feels as though her stock, with the public at least, is on the rise right now.

I think a lot of people who weren't au fait with how the Establishment works have now realised that she has had real heavyweight opposition, in very high places, to establishing a clean break from the EU. The upper echelons of the Civil Service ( the Whitehall Mandarins ) who are the power brokers behind the throne, together with certain figures from the corporate and financial worlds, as well as key globalists, are, by and large, totally against leaving. They have a huge amount of vested interest in the EU.
The PM has been steered, quite cleverly, in a certain direction, to create this situation we now have. Some negotiators saw the signs early ( e.g Davis ) They realised that their hands were tied and they would never get the resolve they desired. The public at large clamoured for information and a direction but it was impossible for the PM and her ( regularly changing ) team to deliver news. They were not leading. They were being led, to this point we have now reached. It is a compromise situation. She is trying to keep her masters reasonably happy, as well as showing the public that there is an effort going on to leave the EU. She is facing enormous pressure to ensure that a foothold is retained in the EU whilst on the other hand trying to keep warring factions within her own party from self-destructing. There is no other party like the Conservatives for blood letting, knife stabbing and sheer bloody ruthlessness. Nothing gets in the way of the party machine.
She has got the Devil's Arse of a job and I think a lot of people realise that.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

We really are in a mess. We have a bunch of Tories MPs (about 70) who have destroyed our Parliamentary democracy. We have an opposition party who under the current leadership really have nothing to offer. I find myself (a labour voting remainer who hates fox hunting) having some sympathy with Theresa May.

Really need the 450+ MPs who voted remain to get together form a unity party and get the country straight.

Word for word what I would have written. What an absolute shambles we are, and it's mainly down to the Tories.

 

[Titanic]

The DWP is in safe hands now..

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[Icy Gull]

Do you do anything other than read, and regurgitate, stuff from those whose views you agree with?

It strikes me as such as a sad and bitter little world that you seem to inhabit.

This, sadly you can predict EXACTLY how Ernest will respond to any thread that has anything to do with politics. No greys, all black and white.

 

[Hastings gull]

TBH neither do I , maybe he would be in a sad and bitter little world if he or one of his family was disabled and trying to deal with the DWP and the NHS waiting months for an appointment

Now we hear about how wonderful you are, taking the side of the disadvantaged, yet in another thread begun by you, you were incapable of showing any sympathy whatsoever toward the McCanns. They might not be disadvantaged, but they lost a child, and believe you me, that strikes you to the core, not that that would have any effect on a sad hypocrite like you. Many- indeed most folk - on here are quite capable of express9ing contrary opinions in a reasonable manner, but you . .

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Time to replace her with someone who can stand-up to Brussels, and deliver a complete break from their plans for a federal Europe. Time for Boris.

Hilarious

 

[Gwylan]

And Parliament asked the people what they wanted to do and they gave their view, hopefully things have moved on a little since the 18th century. It doesnt change my personal view that if an MP cant carry out the result of a referendum that Parliament sanctioned they shouldnt be there. Sorry if that differs from your view, but thats my right isnt it?

It's not my view: it's pretty much the way that MPs have always behaved. The guidance laid down by Burke holds today - he's still the person most often quoted when it comes to the way that MPs should vote.

The classic example was capital punishment: When there was widespread support for it among voters, it was comprehensively rejected in parliament.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

Time to replace her with someone who can stand-up to Brussels, and deliver a complete break from their plans for a federal Europe. Time for Boris.

and Maggie T is dead .....

 

[Wardy's twin]

If only there was some way of seeing if that would play out across the whole electorate.........

amazed that 46% still believe we should jump over a cliff ..

 

[Bodian]

amazed that 46% still believe we should jump over a cliff ..

54% if you take into account the 'referendum on whether or not to accept the deal' - because I would guess the folk who went for that are Leavers - otherwise they would have gone for the No Brexit option?

 

[Wardy's twin]

54% if you take into account the 'referendum on whether or not to accept the deal' - because I would guess the folk who went for that are Leavers - otherwise they would have gone for the No Brexit option?

Yes agree on re-reading this. There is no hope.

 

[BensGrandad]

TBH neither do I , maybe he would be in a sad and bitter little world if he or one of his family was disabled and trying to deal with the DWP and the NHS waiting months for an appointment

I have nothing but praise for the NHS as in May 1995 I visited an NHS dentist at 11,45 am who saw a spot in my tongue and arranged for me to see a specialist at Royal Surrey Hospital Guildford at 2pm . by 4.00pm I had been admitted and diagnosed with mouth cancer at 8am next day I was operated on and told to pack up drinking neat spirits and smoking cigars or have a life expectancy of another 6 months, .23 years on and I am still going, to the annoyance of many. Where else could I have got such good attention and service.

 

[Hastings gull]

I have nothing but praise for the NHS as in May 1995 I visited an NHS dentist at 11,45 am who saw a spot in my tongue and arranged for me to see a specialist at Royal Surrey Hospital Guildford at 2pm . by 4.00pm I had been admitted and diagnosed with mouth cancer at 8am next day I was operated on and told to pack up drinking neat spirits and smoking cigars or have a life expectancy of another 6 months, .23 years on and I am still going, to the annoyance of many. Where else could I have got such good attention and service.

Very pleased for you, and why on earth anyone should be annoyed that you are with us is beyond me.

 

[crookie]

Trying to make the best of a dreadful hand she has been dealt. Making a decent fist of a it. Personally a reluctant leaver and always wanted a very soft Brexit which seems to me what this is. Stay for me, no one obvious who could take the role on

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[Hampster Gull]

She’s got s tough hand but the Tories are a bunch of shysters on Brexit so....whatever