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[Albion] Maupay Dropped



Uh_huh_him

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I trust the club - and GP in particular - too. IF there is anything going on, GP is eminently qualified to deal with it.

But am I right in thinking this is all speculation based on one article in one newspaper - the Daily Mail. Or does anybody KNOW any more. I'm not a "no smoke without fire" sort of person so my inclination is to take it all with a pinch of salt.

Telegraph and Mail I think. Probably one quoting the other.
It is a fairly easy conclusion to jump to ( I certainly did). So could just be a load of bollocks.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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If ever proof was needed that Brighton are too nice this is it. Every team needs some nasty little shits with big egos at PL level. I love Maupay’s shitehousery

Does seem like Potter isn't a fan of players who are big on character. Probably because he doesn't seem that well blessed in the character department himself
 


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I trust the club - and GP in particular - too. IF there is anything going on, GP is eminently qualified to deal with it.

But am I right in thinking this is all speculation based on one article in one newspaper - the Daily Mail. Or does anybody KNOW any more. I'm not a "no smoke without fire" sort of person so my inclination is to take it all with a pinch of salt.

Covered in The Telegraph too, on sport I rate them as trustworthy.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/11/02/brighton-striker-neal-maupay-dropped-against-tottenham-due-attitude/
 


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A friend of mine knows someone who played with him at Brentford, and the friend told me a year or so ago that Maupay was labelled as a bit of a prick. If that is the case, then i do wonder about our no dickheads policy and how poorly that is overseen or administered. Of course, football without bigheads or buffoons is an impossibility, and maturity itself seems a rarity for these sometimes entertaining clowns, but i do want us to have a general sense to our identity which seems intermittently apparent from the board down, which all have to work on to keep this ship steady and happy.

I like Maupay as a player generally, but he seems a log way from the finished article. His workrate is generally higher than his skill level, and i would say it is best to remember that is why is where he is.

For a bit of balance, after the Bournemouth game last season he was happy to have pictures with and talk to my son and his mates after the game (probably helped that we'd won) and he played video games with young Brighton fans after his FIFA tournament match in lockdown. My son worships him.

Us adults all know he's a bit of a wind up merchant but he's our wind up merchant and, like Knocky, I think taking that out of him would diminish his on field effectiveness.
 


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We have a couple of billy big bollox in our lads' team. One is verbal and mouthy; the other tries to destroy other players with criticism. Both have been dropped and told why and both had responded better when they next played.
Attitude IMO is everything in a squad, and there is only one boss, and surprisingly he is the manager.
 




Pavilionaire

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My take:

1. A lot of experienced players / Albion stalwarts have left in a short period of time: Murray, Duffy, Stephens in particular, but also Montoya and Mooy too - this has left something of a vacuum.
2. Ryan's position was undermined by our move to sign Martinez from Arsenal, his standing has been diminished.
3. Other players are now vying to fill that power vacuum and the whole thing needs to settle down.

Competition for places is all well and good but a settled line-up will make the place a lot more stable.

Potter has earned the right to be respected by the players by last season's decent finish and best ever Prem points haul. However, the tactics vs WBA in the second half were a mistake, the selection vs Spurs was a mistake - if he had a beef with Maupay and Connolly he should have started Welbeck and subbed him for Zuqiri if necessary.

However, he needs to manage Maupay and Connolly, because them combining as a pair are our best chance of turning all this possession into goals. We need the back 3 to gel, Dunk to get his mojo back and Lallana to stay fit and be the midfield general.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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My take:

1. A lot of experienced players / Albion stalwarts have left in a short period of time: Murray, Duffy, Stephens in particular, but also Montoya and Mooy too - this has left something of a vacuum.
2. Ryan's position was undermined by our move to sign Martinez from Arsenal, his standing has been diminished.
3. Other players are now vying to fill that power vacuum and the whole thing needs to settle down.

Competition for places is all well and good but a settled line-up will make the place a lot more stable.

Potter has earned the right to be respected by the players by last season's decent finish and best ever Prem points haul. The tactics vs WBA in the second half were a mistake, the selection vs Spurs was a mistake - if he had a beef with Maupay and Connolly he should have started Welbeck and subbed him for Zuqiri if necessary.

However, he needs to manage Maupay and Connolly, because them combining as a pair are our best chance of turning all this possession into goals.

Would help if he at least TRIED to establish a core eleven, then tweaked around the edges a bit with a view to fine tuning. Currently the team selection process is wildly erratic tinkerbollocks
 


METALMICKY

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Presumably you can only fine to a level against the misdemeanor and that being set out in the employment contract? Not sure you could just make it a hefty one without it adhering to contractual terms.:shrug:

Yes, very good point. And I'm sure any decent agent will have the contract water tight and even more so if his client is a little ' lively '.
 




Springal

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You've got no chance of fining someone for an 'ego' - PFA would be all over that.
 


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Would help if he at least TRIED to establish a core eleven, then tweaked around the edges a bit with a view to fine tuning. Currently the team selection process is wildly erratic tinkerbollocks

We have a decent squad but at least you would think GP would know his best 11 allowing for injuries lack of form etc .And of coarse is it true that all successful teams have their regular players playing every match in their usual positions every match ?
 




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If ever proof was needed that Brighton are too nice this is it. Every team needs some nasty little shits with big egos at PL level. I love Maupay’s shitehousery

I agree but not if his shithousery is anyway aimed at Potter or the club then it’s a big no no. I reckon we’ll be hard pushed to know for sure.
 


Badger Boy

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We have a decent squad but at least you would think GP would know his best 11 allowing for injuries lack of form etc .And of coarse is it true that all successful teams have their regular players playing every match in their usual positions every match ?

I actually think he's worked it out, but it's not been available just recently.

Ryan, Lamptey, White, Dunk, Webster, March, Alzate, Bissouma, Lallana, Trossard, Maupay

But Potter likes to think of himself as a tactical genius, so doing the sensible and logical thing isn't for him. He wants to outwit someone, and he does. About every 6 games or so. :rolleyes:
 


chaileyjem

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Would help if he at least TRIED to establish a core eleven, then tweaked around the edges a bit with a view to fine tuning. Currently the team selection process is wildly erratic tinkerbollocks

Is it ? He tweaks it but clearly back 5 are Ryan (until the other day) Lamptey, White, Webster, Dunk, March - Middle predominantly Lallana & Bissouma - with Trossard in there somewhere - he fiddles with Maupay and Connolly and strikers clearly. And leans on Burn/Veltman/Gross as utility players.
But there's a core team there every week so far.
 




Bold Seagull

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It is fairly amusing that under Hughton we complained about him not changing his line ups or tactics.

Now under Potter we're complaining he is changing his line ups and tactics too much.

Football fans eh. :lolol:
 


Stat Brother

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It is fairly amusing that under Hughton we complained about him not changing his line ups or tactics.

Now under Potter we're complaining he is changing his line ups and tactics too much.

Football fans eh. :lolol:

Even funnier is the fact that within the 7 (seven) games this season GPott has also named an unchanged team.
 


Pogue Mahone

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Is it ? He tweaks it but clearly back 5 are Ryan (until the other day) Lamptey, White, Webster, Dunk, March - Middle predominantly Lallana & Bissouma - with Trossard in there somewhere - he fiddles with Maupay and Connolly and strikers clearly. And leans on Burn/Veltman/Gross as utility players.
But there's a core team there every week so far.

Alzate would be, with Bissouma, my first names on the team sheet, yet you haven't even mentioned him.

I really hope Potter doesn't think he is as irrelevant as you appear to.
 


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I actually think he's worked it out, but it's not been available just recently.

Ryan, Lamptey, White, Dunk, Webster, March, Alzate, Bissouma, Lallana, Trossard, Maupay

But Potter likes to think of himself as a tactical genius, so doing the sensible and logical thing isn't for him. He wants to outwit someone, and he does. About every 8 games or so. :rolleyes:

amended for you
 




Bold Seagull

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Even funnier is the fact that within the 7 (seven) games this season GPott has also named an unchanged team.

He's never once tried to sneak a 12th player on either. I think one of the subs warming up could easily slip into the game, and we could go 3-2-4-2. Give us a much better chance of scoring.
 


Coldeanseagull

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Is it ? He tweaks it but clearly back 5 are Ryan (until the other day) Lamptey, White, Webster, Dunk, March - Middle predominantly Lallana & Bissouma - with Trossard in there somewhere - he fiddles with Maupay and Connolly and strikers clearly. And leans on Burn/Veltman/Gross as utility players.
But there's a core team there every week so far.
Ooh, matron!
 


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