[Albion] Maty Ryan - analysis & discussion

[One Teddy Maybank]

Not going on a witch hunt but suffice it to say he has not impressed me at all this season.

But in terms of our needs, an upgrade is down the list IMO.

IMO we cannot progress without a physical presence up front.


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[Giraffe]

I wonder if stalker keeper could help our defenders more. It feels like Duffy and Dunk we’re happy to cover the six yard box but maybe the current formation needs a keeper to dominate more? We quite often concede a goal from a header close in.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Maybe the thread should be renamed “Should Ryan have come for that”. A weekly discussion about our seemingly rooted-to-the-spot keeper?

 

[Justice]

Seems to put himself and the team under pressure when playing out to feet, often players are right on top of him because he’s so friggin slow.

 

[father_and_son]

But in terms of our needs, an upgrade is down the list IMO.

IMO we cannot progress without a physical presence up front.


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This. An upgrade on Ryan would be great if at all possible, but it seems decent goalkeepers are harder to find than strikers at the moment. That Pickford is still considered a viable option for the England team shows how low the bar is set and Ryan measures up well when you look at it from that perspective.

 

[RM-Taylor]

I wonder if stalker keeper could help our defenders more. It feels like Duffy and Dunk we’re happy to cover the six yard box but maybe the current formation needs a keeper to dominate more? We quite often concede a goal from a header close in.

Giraffe, can you or another mod rename this thread as “Maty Ryan analysis and discussion” or something similar to that please? Thanks

 

[Stat Brother]

Seems to put himself and the team under pressure when playing out to feet, often players are right on top of him because he’s so friggin slow.

I am sure you are fully aware of the fact you'd be writing that irrespective of who was in goal.

After a loss the players on here are bombarded with the same miseries moaning about the same mistakes.

They play how they've been trained all week, month and now year by Potter.

 

[Justice]

I am sure you are fully aware of the fact you'd be writing that irrespective of who was in goal.

After a loss the players on here are bombarded with the same miseries moaning about the same mistakes.

They play how they've been trained all week, month and now year by Potter.

Actually thought Steele was getting the ball out to feet quicker than Ryan. Just an observation.

 

[Icy Gull]

Actually thought Steele was getting the ball out to feet quicker than Ryan. Just an observation.

I suggest he has closed the gap to Ryan as a first team option with his displays in the Cup

 

[Stat Brother]

Actually thought Steele was getting the ball out to feet quicker than Ryan. Just an observation.

He may well have been but we don't play Preston and Pompey every week, at the moment!!!


It just doesn't matter who's in goal.

All the time the team is toothless upfront the world's fastest kickerer will still be playing the ball off the strikers toes, if playing for the Albion.
Because the striker has nowhere else he needs to be.

Which is how Potter wants it.

 

[The Albion]

Looking at the performances of Adrian, De Gea, Pickford this round, and Kepa the past few weeks, really puts things into perspective for me. Right now there are so many PL keepers making regular glaring errors, whereas with Ryan people are needing to actively put some kind of case forward as to why they don’t rate him i.e. he isn’t obviously performing poorly like so many PL keepers are.

Perspective is key.

 

[Swansman]

Looking at the performances of Adrian, De Gea, Pickford this round, and Kepa the past few weeks, really puts things into perspective for me. Right now there are so many PL keepers making regular glaring errors, whereas with Ryan people are needing to actively put some kind of case forward as to why they don’t rate him i.e. he isn’t obviously performing poorly like so many PL keepers are.

Perspective is key.

Ryan is a very decent keeper, not by any means flawless but definitely good enough and he gets a lot of unsubstantiated shit. Its difficult to find keepers who are equally good and fits the style. Sure, Valencia is desperately trying to get rid of one before the deadline tomorrow, but I cant see it happening. I think Ryan will be the first choice for another year or two and then the team might start to outgrow his capacity, but overall I feel safe and comfortable with Ryan in goal. There's not a lot of keepers in the PL that I would trade him for, quite a few of them look like nervous wrecks.

 

[Surf's Up]

Ryan is a very good keeper who has one, and only one, major flaw which is that he is unable to dominate his area and be the first line of arial defence, particularly at set pieces. The reason for this has been well rehearsed on here.

 

[AlbionInUs]

I really don’t understand the hate on Ryan. He is isin’t the best keeper, but he is reliable, and doesn’t make many mistakes. He is good with his feet too.

 

[SimpKingpin]

I definitely don't know how to assess keepers. I really wish I did. I often wonder about Ryan...

A great goalkeeper can win or lose you matches, obviously.
I always think of Peter Schmeichel when I think of the perfect keeper - tall, loud, aggressive, commanding and of course talented.

Take these stats, that I picked up from my brother (via Sky) and Twitter (via an AlbionAnalytics retweet) for whatever they are worth:

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My brother thinks he is too short and really wants him replaced.
I'm concerned that he doesn't boss set pieces and corners, and doesn't have a good understanding with his defenders (although, I think the whole team has an issue with corners and set pieces...).

Sometimes he looks amazing. Better than Pickford anyway!
And his primary role lately has been to act as a sweeper. His footwork is a lot better, and so is his distribution. Although I must admit I wince a little when the opposition is pressing high.

Can we do better? Should we try to do better? I don't know the answer to these questions. But I can't help but think there was some truth in the rumours connecting us to other keepers over the summer.

 

[dwayne]

I definitely don't know how to assess keepers. I really wish I did. I often wonder about Ryan...

A great goalkeeper can win or lose you matches, obviously.
I always think of Peter Schmeichel when I think of the perfect keeper - tall, loud, aggressive, commanding and of course talented.

Take these stats, that I picked up from my brother (via Sky) and Twitter (via an AlbionAnalytics retweet) for whatever they are worth:

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My brother thinks he is too short and really wants him replaced.
I'm concerned that he doesn't boss set pieces and corners, and doesn't have a good understanding with his defenders (although, I think the whole team has an issue with corners and set pieces...).

Sometimes he looks amazing. Better than Pickford anyway! [emoji38]
And his primary role lately has been to act as a sweeper. His footwork is a lot better, and so is his distribution. Although I must admit I wince a little when the opposition is pressing high.

Can we do better? Should we try to do better? I don't know the answer to these questions. But I can't help but think there was some truth in the rumours connecting us to other keepers over the summer.

Sometimes he looks amazing

When was that ?

One save Vs Southampton last season and that was that.

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[Stat Brother]

I really don’t understand the hate on Ryan. He is isin’t the best keeper, but he is reliable, and doesn’t make many mistakes. He is good with his feet too.

Let me explain it for you.

Upon signing 1 poster said he was shitehouse. (Remember that bit as I'll circle back to it at the end)

Ryan's first game was against Valencia.
He was actually pretty decent but had a calamitous moment.
We all forget the decent bit.

Some more of the permamoan dickheads now decided he was shitehouse.

The next couple of games each had a further calamitous moment, albeit not as entirely Ryan's fault, as before, but there was more than enough to cement in first impressions.

So now we find ourselves in the position where the club and fans are 4 years into the career of a decent bottom half Premier League keeper.

He's been outstanding, he's saved penalties and points kept clean sheets cost the team point too, pretty much like every other keeper in world football.

He's been a model professional and a genuine club man.


But, here's the thing, one poster was the first to say he was shitehouse.
That opinion will never ever change irrespective of the reach needed to continually valid it, every week we will be told 'Ryan should have saved that', until the moment he leaves.

 

[dwayne]

Let me explain it for you.

Upon signing 1 poster said he was shitehouse. (Remember that bit as I'll circle back to it at the end)

Ryan's first game was against Valencia.
He was actually pretty decent but had a calamitous moment.
We all forget the decent bit.

Some more of the permamoan dickheads now decided he was shitehouse.

The next couple of games each had a further calamitous moment, albeit not as entirely Ryan's fault, as before, but there was more than enough to cement in first impressions.

So now we find ourselves in the position where the club and fans are 4 years into the career of a decent bottom half Premier League keeper.

He's been outstanding, he's saved penalties and points kept clean sheets cost the team point too, pretty much like every other keeper in world football.

He's been a model professional and a genuine club man.


But, here's the thing, one poster was the first to say he was shitehouse.
That opinion will never ever change irrespective of the reach needed to continually valid it, every week we will be told 'Ryan should have saved that', until the moment he leaves.

I used to like Ryan.

But I turned on him when he came back from international duty with Oz after a tournament during the season and was totally unfocused for weeks including a sleepy game where we lost against Fulham away. Ever since then I just don't trust him and think he's painfully average.

We can do better ....

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[zefarelly]

I don't think Ryan is a bad keeper, It's Dunks dip in form and apparent lack of leadership which has highlighted the issues in defence. Someone needs to dominate and manage the area.

I'd prefer it if it was the keeper as he should always be looking in the right direction and be behind the ball.

 

[vagabond]

Matty is not a bad keeper, like Dale is not a bad midfielder. But the club can do better.