[Albion] Mats Wieffer SINGS on 5 year contract

[macbeth]

If I had a pound for every time this joke has been cracked on NSC I’d have four pounds.

my royalties can be paid either via cheque or bank transfer. i do not accept cash

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Interesting, is this where you see him fitting into the set up?

I had in mind he would be primarily a midfielder (meaning, you'd probably want another defender than you have) and he's be doing a role a little more like the one Bissouma did for us. Baleba would then become an understudy

I guess we'll all have to wait and see

I thought so too. I presume that a team selected today would be

Verbruggen

JPVH Dunk Igor/Webster

Hinsh Wieffer Gross Barco

Minteh Pedro Mitoma

 

[Hugo Rune]

The Albion statistical twitter heavyweights are squawking out some really impressive stats for our new man…..

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

That ball recoveries stat is very good news. No one was doing that effectively last season.

 

[Midget]

I thought so too. I presume that a team selected today would be

Verbruggen

JPVH Dunk Igor/Webster

Hinsh Wieffer Gross Barco

Minteh Pedro Mitoma

Maybe not today - I heard Verbruggen's busy

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Strength of league the Dutch are recognised as 8th in the world by the IFFHS.

I don’t think you can draw to much into an individual performance, I mean we had some significant success from recruiting within the 11th best league in the world.

We had some mishaps from the Dutch league but I’d argue the quality of their league wasn’t the reason it didn’t work out

IFFHS

IFFHS - International Federation of Football History & Statistics

iffhs.com

8th is pretty poor (appreciate there are a lot worse), if you are playing in the second best.

I would argue it played a significant part. If you play somewhere with more time, at a slower pace and with less intensity, of course you can look good.

Even in this country, you can see the difference between divisions, other leagues are no different. AJ was fantastic in that league, as was Depuy and numerous others, they could not cut it in the PL.

Of course there are exceptions, but for me it’s more the norm….

All opinions.

Edit - by the way, excellent link, thanks for posting that

 

[Hugo Rune]

Interesting, is this where you see him fitting into the set up?

I had in mind he would be primarily a midfielder (meaning, you'd probably want another defender than you have) and he's be doing a role a little more like the one Bissouma did for us. Baleba would then become an understudy

I guess we'll all have to wait and see

I don’t think he has the dynamism or mobility of a Bissouma or Caicedo. I think Lewis Dunk is a much better comparison. Same height. Same aerial prowess. Same good passing ability and vision.

 

[um bongo molongo]

I hope Pascal stays. This has been looking more likely in recent days. If he does, he surely plays the CAM position which would allow him to go for a record goals/assists season for us.

Wieffer slots straight into the back 3 for me although will be the CDM pivot when we have possession.

If we sign no more 1st players are signed and assume that players currently injured, won’t be back for the Everton game, I think this is how we’ll set-up:


————————Verbruggen —————————

———Van Hecke——Wieffer———Dunk————

Lamptey——Gilmour———Groß-————Barco

——Minteh————-Pedro——-Adingra————

Lamptey the weak link here for me. Just doesn’t have the crossing / end product. Also hoping Mitoma will be fit to start!

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Maybe not today - I heard Verbruggen's busy

Dunky too maybe ...

 

[el punal]

So we have a Wieffer thin Minteh?

That sucks!

 

[um bongo molongo]

I do have a concern about Wee Billy.

Wieffer obviously moves into the midfield as a deep lying playmaker when we have possession buts that is what Wee Billy is good at. The other two central midfield positions got a lot of goals and assists in Hürzeler’s St Pauli set-up. Can Wee Billy sit higher up and actually contribute to our goal scoring? Like Moder, if we don’t have a midfielder who is capable of bagging regular goals and assists, perhaps Wee Billy could be moved on?

I think WBG is a great squad option but I agree we still need one more CM. I think the club agree as well - I think the intention was KDH AND this fella, not OR.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

That midfield is about 5’ 6’ if they all stood on each others shoulders….. Anyway Hinch will be ready, Mitoma also likely.
Barco will be in Paris.
If we go into a season with G&G as our CMs then we’re not finishing top 10.

Neither Barco or Facundo are in the Argentina Olympic squad. It’s likely we blocked their call ups.

https://olympics.com/en/news/argentina-squad-for-paris-2024

 

[el punal]

Tony Bloom went to Rotterdam to smoke a big fat reefer. Brought us back a magic man Mats Mats Wieffer

Very good, but doesn’t scan. Replace Rotterdam with Holland then bingo!

 

[el punal]

my royalties can be paid either via cheque or bank transfer. i do not accept cash

You must be minted.

Sorry!

 

[Flounce]

You must be minted.

Sorry!

Steve Foster no longer posts and he was the most minted on here, shame that would have worked well aimed at him

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I don’t think he has the dynamism or mobility of a Bissouma or Caicedo. I think Lewis Dunk is a much better comparison. Same height. Same aerial prowess. Same good passing ability and vision.

So you're seeing him as primarily centre back, who you could put in midfield, rather than the other way round.

OK, I've got no particular knowledge or preference on this one, but I like to imagine line ups, so i'll imagine one or two with him in that position, and I guess we'll see what happens

 

[Triggaaar]

That is the understatement of the year!! In all my years of watching BHA live, I've never seen a pile-driver struck like that one before.

What a goal.

We sit in the East, but for that game we were right behind the goal. Gutted it was disallowed.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Neither Barco or Facundo are in the Argentina Olympic squad. It’s likely we blocked their call ups.

https://olympics.com/en/news/argentina-squad-for-paris-2024

I personally hope we didn't

Sends the wrong message to prospective signings

 

[Johnny RoastBeef]

Lamptey the weak link here for me. Just doesn’t have the crossing / end product. Also hoping Mitoma will be fit to start!

Tariq's crossing is actually quite good, his finishing not so much.

Per 90 minutes played his assist stats are identical to Pascal Gross.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

8th is pretty poor (appreciate there are a lot worse), if you are playing in the second best.

I would argue it played a significant part. If you play somewhere with more time, at a slower pace and with less intensity, of course you can look good.

Even in this country, you can see the difference between divisions, other leagues are no different. AJ was fantastic in that league, as was Depuy and numerous others, they could not cut it in the PL.

Of course there are exceptions, but for me it’s more the norm….

All opinions.

Points taken

I would counter that I don’t think a league can define a player though. You can only play in the surroundings presented to you at that time. There could be players playing at their maximum who shine and also players playing at 75% of their ability who equally are performing but also not at their ceiling

Here’s a list of recent exports from the Eredivisie, sure there have been failures (mostly man United related) but I’d argue the majority have worked out. (Our new boy is #19 on value)

Veltman has been solid despite reservations from the Ajax fan base that he’s error prone when he left.

The DJ and AJ I feel had actually peaked in their breakout seasons but our model thought there was more to come and there wasn’t sadly. We will never know why, be it a lack of confidence, not integrating with the squad, not settling or simply not being able to step up.

It’s a mixed bag like most of the leagues in the world, I wouldn’t dismiss a player based on league though. I’d like to think our data science guys actually looked at why Big Jurg and AJ didn’t work out and maybe finessed the model if there was something in the data set(s) that we had interpreted wrong.

Could have just been unlucky but I bet we analysed these two that didn’t work out in great detail to avoid a mistaken assumption again (if there was actually one)

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