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Maths Teaser



Pintos

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2005
564
Oxted
This is an old one....

You're on a game show and the host shows you three doors (A,B and C), behind two of the doors is a goat, behind the third is a car. He asks you to choose a door and you choose (for example) door A.

The host opens door B and shows you a goat (he will always show you a goat behind one of the other doors).

He give's you the option of sticking with Door A or changing to Door C.

Do you stick or change and what are the probabilities that your dealing with?


Change to door C - 2/3 chance it's a car
 








leigull

New member
Sep 26, 2010
3,810
This is an old one....

You're on a game show and the host shows you three doors (A,B and C), behind two of the doors is a goat, behind the third is a car. He asks you to choose a door and you choose (for example) door A.

The host opens door B and shows you a goat (he will always show you a goat behind one of the other doors).

He give's you the option of sticking with Door A or changing to Door C.

Do you stick or change and what are the probabilities that your dealing with?

Always change, gives you an extra 1/3 of a chance
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,465
Hove
Have another look, there are 2 x 25%s therefore 25% can not be the answer; it should be 50% but getting the 50% answer is only a 25% chance...i think.


If anyone can explain the answer to this, I'd be grateful. It's been bugging me for ages now...

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Answering at random means picking one of the four options without knowing what it is. As two of the options are 25%, then there is a 1 in 2 chance of picking one. There is a 1 in 4 chance of picking 50% or 60%.
So the answer is 50%

This. Mathmatical paradox. You have a 25% chance of picking the right answer, however 2 of the answers being 25% mean that is a 50% chance. If 50% is the correct answer, you only have a 25% chance of picking that. If you've only a 25% chance of picking the correct answer 50%, you've got a 50% chance of picking 25%.

 












Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,896
Guiseley
This. Mathmatical paradox. You have a 25% chance of picking the right answer, however 2 of the answers being 25% mean that is a 50% chance. If 50% is the correct answer, you only have a 25% chance of picking that. If you've only a 25% chance of picking the correct answer 50%, you've got a 50% chance of picking 25%.

Disagree, I'd say the answer is "it depends what the question is"
 


This is an old one....

You're on a game show and the host shows you three doors (A,B and C), behind two of the doors is a goat, behind the third is a car. He asks you to choose a door and you choose (for example) door A.

The host opens door B and shows you a goat (he will always show you a goat behind one of the other doors).

He give's you the option of sticking with Door A or changing to Door C.

Do you stick or change and what are the probabilities that your dealing with?

I always find that one really difficult to explain to people, unless you generalise it up to 100 doors. Completely messes with our perceptions of probability.
 


leigull

New member
Sep 26, 2010
3,810
I always find that one really difficult to explain to people, unless you generalise it up to 100 doors. Completely messes with our perceptions of probability.

Wiki explains it quite well: Monty Hall problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the Simple Solution section: "An even simpler solution is to reason that switching loses if and only if the player initially picks the car, which happens with probability 1/3, so switching must win with probability 2/3"
 






SkankieBiscuit

New member
Nov 2, 2009
67
How about this one?

Me and my two flat mates were after a decent big new telly for the flat, and a mate of ours said he had seen a peach of an LED full HD 32 inch for exactly £300, and he could pick it up for us on his way home from work next day.

So in the pub that night we each gave him £100, so he could go out and buy the £300 TV.

He went to the shop, and to his delight the price had been reduced even further, to just £250. He obviously thought he would keep quiet about this further discount and pocket the £50 himself.

But his conscience got the better of him, so when he delivered the telly to us he said he got it for £250. And as £50wasn't easily divisible by 3 he said "how about I give you £10 back each, and I keep the other £20 for my trouble, time and petrol money?". And we all thought 'fair enough, he's done us a proper good turn here'.

So at the end of the day, we had each given him £100, but he had given each of us a tenner back. So each of us had parted with £90. Three times £90 is £270, add on the £20 he kept for himself, makes £290.

Hang on a minute, so where's the other tenner gone?

Your friend obviously pocketed £30 as opposed to the £20 if you say £50 off minus £10 to you and £10 to your friend he is infact pocketing £30 not £20. I thank you.
 








DavidinSouthampton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 3, 2012
17,361
There's a 0% chance of picking 0%, as that's not one of the options given.

Agree.
If you pick 25%, you are wrong, because there are two possibilities of choosing it, so the answer is 50%
If you pick 50%, you are wrong, because there is only 1 possibility of choosing it
It is therefore impossible to choose the right answer from the choices given.

Elementary, just in case there is anyone out there called Watson.
 








SeagullSongs

And it's all gone quiet..
Oct 10, 2011
6,937
Southampton
"If you choose an answer to this question at random, what is the chance you will be correct?"

The word this implies that very sentence. As there are no options within the question itself it is impossible to say.
Also, minor semantics, the word chance should be replaced with probability.

If you take the options into consideration, the answer yet again depends entirely on what you state your answer as.
If I were to say A, B, C or D, then there is a 25% chance I am correct.
Were I to say one of the given percentages, it is impossible that my answer is correct.
 
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