[Albion] Marc Cucurella *Signed For Chelsea 05/08/2022*

[Lever]

I wouldn't be surprised if Moises is beginning to regret moving to Chelsea instead of Liverpool. According to some press he's been told he needs to improve with them by Poch and he's not exactly getting the love from Chelsea fans as he did with us, coupled with where Chelsea are compared to Liverpool! But hey ho, money talks and his bank balance makes him and his family happy!

I agree with all that you have written apart from the last point. I imagine the money is some compensation (and of course extremely desirable), but for a young lad with outstanding talent and world class potential there surely can be no making up for the lost love of fans delighting in the quality of his play

 

[nicko31]

Is transfer listing all these players a tacit acceptance by Chelsea that they are f***ed as far as FFP is concerned, or at least some sort of aquiescence of the rules?

This could all have a very happy ending

 

[Doc Lynam]

I wouldn't be surprised if Moises is beginning to regret moving to Chelsea instead of Liverpool. According to some press he's been told he needs to improve with them by Poch and he's not exactly getting the love from Chelsea fans as he did with us, coupled with where Chelsea are compared to Liverpool! But hey ho, money talks and his bank balance makes him and his family happy!

You forgot the real winner here, his new agent.

 

[oldboyroy]

I agree with all that you have written apart from the last point. I imagine the money is some compensation (and of course extremely desirable), but for a young lad with outstanding talent and world class potential there surely can be no making up for the lost love of fans delighting in the quality of his play

I agree. For a young lad he thrived on the support and love from the fans, who wouldn't at his age. He doesn't get that at Chelsea (yet) and may never! He was a confident outstanding DM for us and with Roberto giving him the love especially after the episode of last January. Its quite remarkable how the likes of Moises and Cucu have dipped since joining Chelsea

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I think he thought he'd found a smart-arse way round it with exceptionally long contracts and consequent long amortisation periods.......but failed to realise anyone not performing on one of those deals quickly becomes a millstone and strangles any future business they want to do....and now they have several in that situation. Even their own fans are starting to conclude that they're quite possibly fooked now - no way (as far as I can see anyway - maybe some DULLARD can help) they can spend a ton more on new players without selling - and that will either have to be academy products, or players they've massively overpaid for at much lower values because a) they're not worth it on current form and b) all the other clubs know Chelsea are up shit creek without a paddle.

That’s what I don’t understand Shirley as someone who has been financially successful in business would have the foresight to see both the up and downsides of 8 year contracts on both a performance and balance sheet basis?

I can only conclude he doesn’t think any detrimental action will be taken

 

[Herne Hill Seagull]

I wouldn't be surprised if Moises is beginning to regret moving to Chelsea instead of Liverpool. According to some press he's been told he needs to improve with them by Poch and he's not exactly getting the love from Chelsea fans as he did with us, coupled with where Chelsea are compared to Liverpool! But hey ho, money talks and his bank balance makes him and his family happy!

I'm sure he's fine - he always dreamed of playing for Chelsea, remember? Or was that Liverpool? Or Arsenal? I forget...

 

[The Hermit Kingdom]

^^^ I don’t buy it, 175 bags is your sky rocket a month (a MONTH!) in a short lived Cucurella career is manna from heaven for him. All the kissing the badge stuff is nonsense as we know, the majority of players are mercenaries when you strip it down and I very much doubt his head hits the pillow each night full of regret, Sanchez and Caicedo neither.

 

[Berty23]

I suspect caicedo is regretting not going to Liverpool. I thought it was a strange choice at the time but he made his choice and he has to live with it. Hindsight is obviously a wonderful thing but I suspect that come the end of his career he might reflect he should have had another season with Brighton. Had he stayed I genuinely believe we would be in the top four right now.

 

[butchy]

I wouldn't be surprised if Moises is beginning to regret moving to Chelsea instead of Liverpool. According to some press he's been told he needs to improve with them by Poch and he's not exactly getting the love from Chelsea fans as he did with us, coupled with where Chelsea are compared to Liverpool! But hey ho, money talks and his bank balance makes him and his family happy!

Dont forget he had his five brothers and seven sisters financial wellbeing to think about!

 

[ConfusedGloryHunter]

There is some top drawer gloating and schadenfreude going on in this thread.

I approve.

 

[WATFORD zero]

If you’re playing at the elite level, with a bit of restraint on expenditure a player would only need 3 years income to be comfortably set up for life, and probably their kids lives too. And then you could think eff it, I’ll head off and play where I’m happy. Still gonna get paid, it just might not be as much

I'm not defending anyone, but I don't think we should forget that simply to become a professional footballer you have to be crazily focused and ambitious, and even more so as you go up the levels. I suspect that there is always a large portion of that ambition, in the prospect of winning things and being successful in these moves.

However I think the difference between MacAllister and Caecido highlights the difference a bit of maturity and good advice can make. As was obvious and said by many at the time, Caicedo should have gone to Liverpool. If he had, I think he would be doing far better and don't think he'd be getting the stick he is

 

[Springal]

Didn’t Klopp make a little dig at ‘midfielders that turned us down’ the other day ?

 

[Bakero]

For comparison, does anybody know, roughly, what Cucurella was earning with us?

^^^ I don’t buy it, 175 bags is your sky rocket a month (a MONTH!) in a short lived Cucurella career is manna from heaven for him. All the kissing the badge stuff is nonsense as we know, the majority of players are mercenaries when you strip it down and I very much doubt his head hits the pillow each night full of regret, Sanchez and Caicedo neither.

175k a week, surely. Mindboggling figures.

 

[The Hermit Kingdom]

175k a week, surely. Mindboggling figures.

Yes, sorry, a week! Unreal.

 

[BNthree]

I wouldn't be surprised if Moises is beginning to regret moving to Chelsea instead of Liverpool. According to some press he's been told he needs to improve with them by Poch and he's not exactly getting the love from Chelsea fans as he did with us, coupled with where Chelsea are compared to Liverpool! But hey ho, money talks and his bank balance makes him and his family happy!

His 10 siblings are certainly pleased though!

 

[GT49er]

His 10 siblings are certainly pleased though!

Not really - two of them seem to have starved since post #7851!

 

[Dave the OAP]

I'm sure he's fine - he always dreamed of playing for Chelsea, remember? Or was that Liverpool? Or Arsenal? I forget...

Man United wasn’t it?

 

[nwgull]

I wouldn't be surprised if Moises is beginning to regret moving to Chelsea instead of Liverpool. According to some press he's been told he needs to improve with them by Poch and he's not exactly getting the love from Chelsea fans as he did with us, coupled with where Chelsea are compared to Liverpool! But hey ho, money talks and his bank balance makes him and his family happy!

I reckon most of Chelsea's recent aquisitions will regret moving to Chelsea, and Colwill probably regrets signing that new contract. However, Caicedo must REALLY regret it given that we'd accepted a bid from Liverpool where he could go and play alongside the same Spanish-speaking team mate whom he'd had so much synergy with the previous season.

Sources suggest that the agent received a massive pay day from the Chelsea deal that wasn't offered by Liverpool.

 

[Lever]

I agree. For a young lad he thrived on the support and love from the fans, who wouldn't at his age. He doesn't get that at Chelsea (yet) and may never! He was a confident outstanding DM for us and with Roberto giving him the love especially after the episode of last January. Its quite remarkable how the likes of Moises and Cucu have dipped since joining Chelsea

Interesting, isn't it. My take is that the toxicity of Chelsea began with the obscene dodgy financial 2003 input from oligarch Abramovich which took their club from the brink of financial ruin to 'loadsamoney'; they bought some sustained success and during the course of this transition their fans response seemed to morph from 'gratitude' to 'high aspiration' and then on to 'entitlement'.... and that is why young prospects carry a heavy responsibility to perform magic rather than continue to learn their 'trade'. There is a commercial poison in the heart of that club now and it spreads to their support.....

 

[Sheebo]

There was a Facebook post yesterday about Moises wanting a move to Liverpool in January and him saying it was the biggest mistake of his life joining Chelsea instead of Liverpool. Also, Jurgen Klopp not being interested.

Who was the Facebook post from? I don’t follow what you mean?