Man.City vs Man.Utd

[NMH]

Fergie patting the ref on the back - sickening.

He probably just said "you know you were in a match there" or "I don't envy you for being in that one" or something.
But you know it would likely have been a red-faced tirade if manure hadn't won it.

Good match for the neutrals though, and for me, well refereed.

Funny how the pundits are all such great refs, claiming there was a handball by United when the ball came off the defender's chest - the replay showed it first hit his leg, then bounced off the turf to his shoulder, so another good decision in not giving a game-changing wrong decision.

It's not that common to be able to say a referee was quality, but I certainly didn't see much* wrong with his adjudication.

Ferguson's take on it, that his player would have been certainly due an injury from the 2-footed tackle was a bit ott, he wanted to suggest it was 'ott' over the top as well, but refrained on second thoughts.
*Ferdinand could have been sent off, as last man committing a desperate definite foul - that didn't get mentioned.

 

[Acker79]

*Ferdinand could have been sent off, as last man committing a desperate definite foul - that didn't get mentioned.

It's not about being the last man, it's about denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. (Not seen the incident, so that may still apply).

 

[Deleted member 18477]

Great game! MOM was Milner (engine) and Carrick (calmness) for me today!

Phil jones had another shocker! Rash!

Scholes took 5 mins to get his passing going. Class. Mr possession!

Richards was a tank as usual! England's RB please postman pat!

Ref had a shocker!! Useless!

As for Nasri... bench warmer at best for citeh, although 150k a week for 4 yrs? Trophies that other players will win you? Hmm! Apart from that should have stayed at the Arse!

 

[Stu1]

Today I went to watch this game instead of going to the Amex yesterday(bad fan)

3 things
the man u fans are the biggest set of sing when your winning fans ever as soon as it went 1-3 they were silent, city only made noise when it went 2-3 it makes me realise how good our home atmosphere, it's important we keep it going

A Man City season ticket is 75 quid cheper than my 1 at the Amex

Referees at any level in this country are an embarrassment, it's time for change

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Today I went to watch this game instead of going to the Amex yesterday(bad fan)

3 things
the man u fans are the biggest set of sing when your winning fans ever as soon as it went 1-3 they were silent, city only made noise when it went 2-3 it makes me realise how good our home atmosphere, it's important we keep it going

A Man City season ticket is 75 quid cheper than my 1 at the Amex

Referees at any level in this country are an embarrassment, it's time for change

We saw that at the cup final replay regarding Man U fans. No change there then.

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[Working class pride]

Another game decided by the ref. Sendings offs and penalties as game changing decisions should go to a 3rd ref using the tv. For the sake of good governance it is needed now. Too many games are changed by penalties and sendings off now. In fact its ot to such a stage that Im losing interest in football

 

[NMH]

It's not about being the last man, it's about denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. (Not seen the incident, so that may still apply).

Correct, but often a player facing the goal, impeded like he was by Ferdinand might be considered as a possible goalscorer.
Many refs would see it that way I believe - but yes, you are right to suggest that as a reason there wasn't a red card shown

 

[sten_super]

Another game decided by the ref. Sendings offs and penalties as game changing decisions should go to a 3rd ref using the tv. For the sake of good governance it is needed now. Too many games are changed by penalties and sendings off now. In fact its ot to such a stage that Im losing interest in football

I genuinely do not understand what the ref did wrong, and feel genuine pity for them on occasion, as they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. The only person to blame for 'deciding the game' was Kompany for committing a two footed challenge.

Here's a genuine question for those that think he got the sending off wrong - would you have said the same thing if he'd caught Nani on the ankle?

 

[Working class pride]

I genuinely do not understand what the ref did wrong, and feel genuine pity for them on occasion, as they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. The only person to blame for 'deciding the game' was Kompany for committing a two footed challenge.

Here's a genuine question for those that think he got the sending off wrong - would you have said the same thing if he'd caught Nani on the ankle?

I saw it, he got the ball. Either way the point I make is not about this game. Results in football turns more and more on what decision a ref makes. Sendings off and penalties have ruined this season. We also must look at the problems with gambling and that there are two cricketers in jail at the moment. Game changing decisions like penalties and sendings off should only be made by more than one person so to reduce the risk. I suggest the ref calls a sending off or penalty and the tv ref then confirms or overturns it.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

I saw it, he got the ball. Either way the point I make is not about this game. Results in football turns more and more on what decision a ref makes. Sendings off and penalties have ruined this season. We also must look at the problems with gambling and that there are two cricketers in jail at the moment. Game changing decisions like penalties and sendings off should only be made by more than one person so to reduce the risk. I suggest the ref calls a sending off or penalty and the tv ref then confirms or overturns it.

I get the wider point you are making about decisions that affect the game. I also agree that key decisions need longer scrutiny, win assistance by others. However, as the laws of the game are worded, do you accept that the referee acted consistently with them? After all, since 2005, whether a player wins the ball or not with the kind of challenge Kompany made has no bearing on whether it is a red card offence or not.

 

[Working class pride]

I get the wider point you are making about decisions that affect the game. I also agree that key decisions need longer scrutiny, win assistance by others. However, as the laws of the game are worded, do you accept that the referee acted consistently with them? After all, since 2005, whether a player wins the ball or not with the kind of challenge Kompany made has no bearing on whether it is a red card offence or not.

I saw it a couple of times and then turned over as it was yet another game was ruined by a sending off or a penalty. I understand what you are saying but he didnt go through the back of him, it was not dangerous. However there is another wider point. Even with referring game changing decisions, you cant stop a player trying to deliberately get sent off, although you could make the suspensions longer. Game changing decisions are ruining football and we have to cast a wary eye now that sportsmen are in jail and footballers have admitted kicking the ball out of play.

 

[Beach Hut]

Watching the highlights, awful lot of shirt badge kissing by Utd probably under orders from Sir Alex

 

[Joey Deacon's Disco Suit]

Taggart is a Jedi Master. He knows that him going up and being all pal-y with the ref after the game winds everyone up. I'm more incensed with that scouse twat Rooney for getting Kompany sent off.

And then kissing the badge? You're an Everton fan you nob and you're going to be sold in the summer. What a pillock.

 

[sten_super]

Just to re-ignite this, the picture on the Guardian article about his appeal being turned down certainly doesn't make it look like a mistake from the ref. Looks very worthy of a red card IMHO.

Vincent Kompany to serve four-match ban after red card appeal is rejected | Football | guardian.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 18477]

Just to re-ignite this, the picture on the Guardian article about his appeal being turned down certainly doesn't make it look like a mistake from the ref. Looks very worthy of a red card IMHO.

Vincent Kompany to serve four-match ban after red card appeal is rejected | Football | guardian.co.uk

4 match ban haha lovely job! hopefully cardiff stuff palace and liverpool stuff citeh now!!

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Just to re-ignite this, the picture on the Guardian article about his appeal being turned down certainly doesn't make it look like a mistake from the ref. Looks very worthy of a red card IMHO.

Vincent Kompany to serve four-match ban after red card appeal is rejected | Football | guardian.co.uk

If the Milijas one was turned down the other day, then this one stood no-chance, it was worse (no necessrily as red card i my book, but was comparatively worse to that one) - however, wasn't as bad as Lampards one last week which only got a yellow. not surprising the managers get frustrated with consistency like that.

 

[vegster]

Just to re-ignite this, the picture on the Guardian article about his appeal being turned down certainly doesn't make it look like a mistake from the ref. Looks very worthy of a red card IMHO.

Vincent Kompany to serve four-match ban after red card appeal is rejected | Football | guardian.co.uk

It really is no surprise, I posted a link the other day which showed that if you are charged with anything or appeal against a card, to the FA, you have a 00.5% chance of getting it rescinded.

 

[drew]

Just to re-ignite this, the picture on the Guardian article about his appeal being turned down certainly doesn't make it look like a mistake from the ref. Looks very worthy of a red card IMHO.

Vincent Kompany to serve four-match ban after red card appeal is rejected | Football | guardian.co.uk

Right because the Guardian are going to pick a still that reflects what actually happened. He slid in and took the ball. His studs were not high at the point of when he connected with the ball. Shouldn't have been sent off and probably wouldn't have been had Rooney not done a Ronaldo!

 

[sten_super]

Right because the Guardian are going to pick a still that reflects what actually happened. He slid in and took the ball. His studs were not high at the point of when he connected with the ball. Shouldn't have been sent off and probably wouldn't have been had Rooney not done a Ronaldo!

What do you mean? Are you trying to claim that isn't a photo of the sending off offence? The picture clearly shows that he was not in control of his challenge, therefore it was dangerous.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Right because the Guardian are going to pick a still that reflects what actually happened. He slid in and took the ball. His studs were not high at the point of when he connected with the ball. Shouldn't have been sent off and probably wouldn't have been had Rooney not done a Ronaldo!

Rubbish - do you really think the ref thought "oh, hang on Wazza thinks it should be red, so off he goes", I don't think it works like that. He wasn't in control, would have broken Nanis leg if he hadn't jumped out the way - end of. I admit, it didn't look particularly bad in real-time from where the camera was.