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[Finance] Man City accused of breaking EPL financial rules



SAC

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May 21, 2014
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When athletes use performance enhancing drugs Olympic medals are rescinded and offenders banned.

Surely, if proven to have broken the financial rules to enhance performance, honours should be rescinded.

Until there is a proper deterrent nothing will change.
A good point, and one I hadn't thought of before. If guilty, take away any trophies won since 2009 along with any money won from these competitions.
 




A1X

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All that financial doping and they still got beaten by Dan Burn
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I take the same view on this news as I do going into every Albion game: expect nothing and anything else is a bonus.

These clubs have MASSIVE weight, power and money behind them. I can almost guarantee that the punishment won't fit the crime in any way, shape or form.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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A good point, and one I hadn't thought of before. If guilty, take away any trophies won since 2009 along with any money won from these competitions.
I think my idea is unrealistic though and would never get imposed.

However, going forward if they are serious a points deduction is the only sanction these clubs will understand. Otherwise they spend BIG BIG, take the transfer ban, fine etc and carry on as before.

These owners / despot states have unlimited resources we all know that.

Sadly, I can't see the current government doing anything. They will welcome money from anywhere if they can get away with it politically.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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I take the same view on this news as I do going into every Albion game: expect nothing and anything else is a bonus.

These clubs have MASSIVE weight, power and money behind them. I can almost guarantee that the punishment won't fit the crime in any way, shape or form.

This is somewhat different as it is the PL/FA and not UEFA who are scared of the bigger clubs.

I am not confident at all, but they sign up to the rules and the PL/FA must be super confident to publish this now, plus you will have 19 chairman demanding action and 5 of them have the threat of the super league.
 








Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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I think my idea is unrealistic though and would never get imposed.

However, going forward if they are serious a points deduction is the only sanction these clubs will understand. Otherwise they spend BIG BIG, take the transfer ban, fine etc and carry on as before.

These owners / despot states have unlimited resources we all know that.

Sadly, I can't see the current government doing anything. They will welcome money from anywhere if they can get away with it politically.
Introducing party politics, once Starmer's PM from Dec 24, what legislation do you envisage to stop Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia and Boehly cheating? Abram and the non-Dom's, Abu Dhabi, arrived under New Labour.

I'd love to see football or governments act decisivily once and for all.

I just can't see Starmer or any PM truly getting involved. A laissez faire stance, plus the inwards investment is secretly loved.
 


Stephen Seagull

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Oct 6, 2015
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Deserved Punishment - Relegtion

Likey Punishment - a 1 point deduction, suspended for a year.

FFP - What IS THE POINT?
This is the league's/FA's chance to make a statement.

If they do nothing (or minimal punishment), it sets a dangerous precedent for the rest of the clubs in the league. How could they say anything to Chelsea, Newcastle, or other petro-clubs with bottomless pits of cash to burn?

We all realise that this will take a LONG time before any form of punishment (even minimal) will be put into effect. Expect nothing until at least next season
 


Hamilton

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This is really extraordinary breaking news.

I had no idea whatsoever that City were spending vast sums of money that at the time, they did not have.

I am flabbergasted.

Next they'll be telling me that Chelsea have broken financial fair play rules!
 






Diallo

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Jan 3, 2021
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I really wish they would set up a Super Cheats European League, just get it over with.
I think that’s the final intention with these morally driven football clubs.
Pretty sure about 20 years ago the idea of a European super league was being pushed by a lot of the elite clubs. I’m now starting to hope for it too. Then we can play in a competitive league both financially and footballing, for a change.
 


SAC

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May 21, 2014
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This is the league's/FA's chance to make a statement.

If they do nothing (or minimal punishment), it sets a dangerous precedent for the rest of the clubs in the league. How could they say anything to Chelsea, Newcastle, or other petro-clubs with bottomless pits of cash to burn?

We all realise that this will take a LONG time before any form of punishment (even minimal) will be put into effect. Expect nothing until at least next season
I suppose it depends on if the FA/PL want to see our clubs competing in Europe. If they like the idea of a number of English clubs getting to the latter stages of European cup competitions, they will do little to prevent these clubs spending to make this possible.
 




nicko31

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Introducing party politics, once Starmer's PM from Dec 24, what legislation do you envisage to stop Abu Dhabi, Saudi Arabia and Boehly cheating? Abram and the non-Dom's, Abu Dhabi, arrived under New Labour.

I'd love to see football or governments act decisivily once and for all.

I just can't see Starmer or any PM truly getting involved. A laissez faire stance, plus the inwards investment is secretly loved.
Agree, I can't see ANY government really acting, they see the PL as a big international success and if its full of cheats is won't bother them
 


Clive Walker

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Jul 5, 2011
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Brighton
torn between :

1- The PL looking to set a precedent after the leak of the new charter along with the fact that this is the PL and not UEFA. confident of brutal sactions.

and

2- The PL need city and all their wealth to maintain their brand so will let them off very lightly.
 




Diallo

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Jan 3, 2021
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torn between :

1- The PL looking to set a precedent after the leak of the new charter along with the fact that this is the PL and not UEFA. confident of brutal sactions.

and

2- The PL need city and all their wealth to maintain their brand so will let them off very lightly.
The more Man City keep investigating into the local area, the more they can break the football rules. And to be fair, they have done a very good in their local area. I used to live in Tameside and would pass their stadium everyday. Its remarkable what they’ve done for the local community, just a shame it gives them this untouchable power in the world of football.
 




CheeseRolls

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I recommend a treble relegation and start the following season on -45 points. In addition fans of opposing teams who have suffered defeats during this period should be given the opportunity to kick a current City player in the testicles. A queueing system will be in operation and those queueing for Jack Grealish in particular are asked to be patient, as extended waiting times may apply.
 


warmleyseagull

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Apr 17, 2011
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I think my idea is unrealistic though and would never get imposed.

However, going forward if they are serious a points deduction is the only sanction these clubs will understand. Otherwise they spend BIG BIG, take the transfer ban, fine etc and carry on as before.

These owners / despot states have unlimited resources we all know that.

Sadly, I can't see the current government doing anything. They will welcome money from anywhere if they can get away with it politically.
WTF has it to with government; for all their faults difficult to lay this on them.
 


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