Malaysian airline crash

[Hillian1]

How about this one ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Blimey, never heard of that one before.

I stand very much corrected.

 

[Hyperion]

Just one question........do you actually know what the Cuban Missile Crisis is?

I do sir. I apologise for last night. For mine and a lovely and now hungover friend of mine.

I don't take back the basic view but the tone and response to you was not correct.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

I do sir. I apologise for last night. For mine and a lovely and now hungover friend of mine.

I don't take back the basic view but the tone and response to you was not correct.

Hey so what,if it kicks off any time anywhere,we need your type in the trenches,i will personally supply the and anything else you require-

Sargent Hyperion

 

[Hyperion]

Hey so what,if it kicks off any time anywhere,we need your type in the trenches,i will personally supply the and anything else you require-

Sargent Hyperion

Hahaha A Helicopter?

 

[martyn20]

Blimey, never heard of that one before.

I stand very much corrected.

Very, very similar incident, they US ship thought they had locked onto an Iranian F14 and the Russian rebels thought they had locked on to a high altitude cargo plane. Both terrible errors

 

[martyn20]

I do sir. I apologise for last night. For mine and a lovely and now hungover friend of mine.

I don't take back the basic view but the tone and response to you was not correct.

No worries at all

 

[martyn20]

common sence isnt that common and seldom makes much sence. to you its obvious in retrospect, to airlines that follow civil aviation guidelines its not. even after the event there were still planes flying that route, and on flightradar24 you could see a few going over that area on Friday, albeit Moscow bound so "friendly".

Common sense is something you would hope would be exercised when you are operating a metal tube full of people at 33,000ft!

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Hahaha A Helicopter?

Done,Chinnoks will bring in supplies and a battalion of Para's at your disposal,Lynx to ferry in the SAS,Apache's to take out the counter attackers,Cobras to provide close support.. oh and a couple of fast movers to provide
top cover.

 

[Hyperion]

Done,Chinnoks will bring in supplies and a battalion of Para's at your disposal,Lynx to ferry in the SAS,Apache's to take out the counter attackers,Cobras to provide close support.. oh and a couple of fast movers to provide
top cover.

Was just thinking of a Thai curry delivery service tbh

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Was just thinking of a Thai curry delivery service tbh

Ah...........well,maybe i will get back to you on that,Pork & peanut curry?

 

[Husty]

Please could you provide an example of America, or for that matter anyone other than Russia ever having shot a civilian airliner down.

Not trying to be argumentative here, genuinely don't remember it ever happening, especially not like the common event your post paints it to be.

Theres an article on the bbc with a load of examples. I'm on my phone or is provide a link

 

[The Spanish]

Common sense is something you would hope would be exercised when you are operating a metal tube full of people at 33,000ft!

or when discussing perfectly reasonable flight paths. your belief that no one should be flying over a region where long range anti aircraft missiles are deployed would basically ground most civil aviation globally. Hindsight based opinion Martyn with no acknowledgement of the realities. Do you know how many unstable, effectively war zones, that flight would have continued to fly over if it had cleared Ukraine?

 

[martyn20]

or when discussing perfectly reasonable flight paths. your belief that no one should be flying over a region where long range anti aircraft missiles are deployed would basically ground most civil aviation globally. Hindsight based opinion Martyn with no acknowledgement of the realities. Do you know how many unstable, effectively war zones, that flight would have continued to fly over if it had cleared Ukraine?

Yes these missiles are deployed all over the world but how many have actually been used in say the last 2 months? The US told carriers it was too dangerous, BA think it's too dangerous, why did Malaysian Airways think it was safe enough?

 

[martyn20]

or when discussing perfectly reasonable flight paths. your belief that no one should be flying over a region where long range anti aircraft missiles are deployed would basically ground most civil aviation globally. Hindsight based opinion Martyn with no acknowledgement of the realities. Do you know how many unstable, effectively war zones, that flight would have continued to fly over if it had cleared Ukraine?

How many international flights do you imagine are currently flying over Gaza?

 

[glasfryn]

they should all meet

Putin
Obama
the soldiers on the ground
there in Eastern Ukraine























































then drop something very nasty on the lot of them

 

[The Spanish]

How many international flights do you imagine are currently flying over Gaza?

none as its tiny and not massive and on a key intercontinental flight path unlike Ukraine.

i would not have the answer for why Malaysian Airways think its safe enough, as there is no such airline.

 

[martyn20]

none as its tiny and not massive and on a key intercontinental flight path unlike Ukraine.

i would not have the answer for why Malaysian Airways think its safe enough, as there is no such airline.

You are very clever aren't you? I am sure you have no idea at all what I was talking about.
The area above the whole of Ukraine is not a problem just a certain area over Eastern Ukraine, quite a small area actually.

 

[symyjym]

Yes these missiles are deployed all over the world but how many have actually been used in say the last 2 months? The US told carriers it was too dangerous, BA think it's too dangerous, why did Malaysian Airways think it was safe enough?

Maybe it was deemed safer than flying over Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[martyn20]

Maybe it was deemed safer than flying over Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.

It's a very small area of Ukraine we are talking about

 

[Insel affe]

Don't care if it is a small area or not, when you walking onto a plane destined for anywhere in the world the last thing you should be worried about is being shot down by a missile....

there is no right conclusion as to if, why or who other than it's wrong.