Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Saltydog]

I would be surprised if any right minded person thought the quarantine rules were over dramatic (albeit very inconvenient).

The problem is how many will observe the rules? I fear we will be seeing our own 'spike' in the coming weeks

Hey Mr Rugrat, I was referring to all of the complaints that they introduced it too suddenly (and acted as they should have at the start of this infernal virus). The current gov cannot do right for doing wrong.

I fear you could well be correct on a UK surge. It must be really hard financially on many to not be allowed to go to work for 14 days after they return - especially after running up the debt on cards whist out in the sun and a need to put food on the tables etc. Guess this will lead to some taking risks And not observing the rules.


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[Saltydog]

Absolutely dreadful.
I really do wonder what the GP's in some practices are doing at the moment.
My experience is that if you ring up the surgery they refer you to a paramedic, a nurse, the cleaner or the cleaner's dog rather than let you speak to a doctor. I exaggerate, but not much. I was misdiagnosed by a nurse that led to me being referred to a hospital specialist, (after I eventually spoke to GP) for a telephone consultation. Luckily my problem turned out to be not a serious one, but it might have been. Because of the misdiagnosis, I had to put up with weeks of quite nasty discomfort. I don't blame the nurse, but they aren't doctors. During the course of my conversation with the specialist whilst he was checking my symptoms, he asked what the G.P. had said and I laughed and said, it is difficult to speak to one'! He said, hmm,they seem to have disappeared; I hear this quite a lot from my patients.
Anyway, I'm sorry to hear of your wife's problems and I do hope you get success.......eventually!

All echoing my own experience. I was advised to go to A&E - when I got there is seems another 30 plus people were advised the same as the waiting area was so full (and this was the patients only as no relatives allowed). No temperature checks etc, just register and find somewhere to stand as there were no seats due to the number of people already there. I was going to wait outside in the open as I saw a couple who were not wearing face covering (although one had a beard!) but as I would not know if I had been called I discharged myself and went back in the middle of the night when not many people were there.

Top class service at that time. But not convinced based on my experience that hospitals are a safe place.

 

[Fungus]

All echoing my own experience. I was advised to go to A&E - when I got there is seems another 30 plus people were advised the same as the waiting area was so full (and this was the patients only as no relatives allowed). No temperature checks etc, just register and find somewhere to stand as there were no seats due to the number of people already there. I was going to wait outside in the open as I saw a couple who were not wearing face covering (although one had a beard!) but as I would not know if I had been called I discharged myself and went back in the middle of the night when not many people were there.

Top class service at that time. But not convinced based on my experience that hospitals are a safe place.

True. A friend of ours was admitted due to dementia-related behavioural problems, and caught the virus in there.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Sweden haven’t recorded a death for 5 days and cases dropping

https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-whi...s-spike-1521626#click=https://t.co/nNalzcrLrd

 

[Albion Dan]

Sweden haven’t recorded a death for 5 days and cases dropping

https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-whi...s-spike-1521626#click=https://t.co/nNalzcrLrd

Can’t be right their strategy was all wrong wasn’t it?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Can’t be right their strategy was all wrong wasn’t it?

Tweak it slightly for care homes and they had it right for my money.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

2 Trillion of debt

 

[Saltydog]

2 Trillion of debt

Not a good feeling is it - especially as it will need to be paid back some time!

Not all down to Covid though. Debt was it up £1.75/1.8T about February 2020 so asone would expect in the current global situation it could only go one way.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Sage floating the idea of a second nationwide lockdown today.

 

[Fat Boy Fat]

Sage floating the idea of a second nationwide lockdown today.

Where have you got this information from, I thought Boris Johnson had said a second lockdown was akin to a nuclear deterrent.

 

[Rugrat]

Not a good feeling is it - especially as it will need to be paid back some time!

Not all down to Covid though. Debt was it up £1.75/1.8T about February 2020 so asone would expect in the current global situation it could only go one way.

Paid back? Most rolled over like some giant sized, legal Ponzi scheme

 

[vegster]

Sage floating the idea of a second nationwide lockdown today.

We can't and won't be " Lead by the Science" again. The government, probably most governments, simply can't afford to pay us to isolate again after the huge costs of the original lockdown.

Sadly, I think we are just going to have to accept the Virus as a constant threat and only lock down in locations where it is absolutely necessary and for the minimum of time. It will be Herd Immunity by the back door.

 

[beorhthelm]

Sage floating the idea of a second nationwide lockdown today.

Sage will be told, thank you but we're taking a different approach now.

we know more now, and can see the social and economic cost outweigh protecting the NHS.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Where have you got this information from, I thought Boris Johnson had said a second lockdown was akin to a nuclear deterrent.

Couple of papers this morning.

If we go into a second national lockdown Boris May as well resign at the same time.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Poland seem to me having the same fate as NZ/Australia

One of the strictest lock down and now cases are going through the roof

 

[Birdie Boy]

Absolutely dreadful.
I really do wonder what the GP's in some practices are doing at the moment.
My experience is that if you ring up the surgery they refer you to a paramedic, a nurse, the cleaner or the cleaner's dog rather than let you speak to a doctor. I exaggerate, but not much. I was misdiagnosed by a nurse that led to me being referred to a hospital specialist, (after I eventually spoke to GP) for a telephone consultation. Luckily my problem turned out to be not a serious one, but it might have been. Because of the misdiagnosis, I had to put up with weeks of quite nasty discomfort. I don't blame the nurse, but they aren't doctors. During the course of my conversation with the specialist whilst he was checking my symptoms, he asked what the G.P. had said and I laughed and said, it is difficult to speak to one'! He said, hmm,they seem to have disappeared; I hear this quite a lot from my patients.
Anyway, I'm sorry to hear of your wife's problems and I do hope you get success.......eventually![emoji106]

Thanks. Apparently they are sending the mri results to our house, no idea if we will understand them though. In this day and age, you would expect they would email them as it is a lot quicker and cheaper, but hey.

 

[Birdie Boy]

Thanks. Apparently they are sending the mri results to our house, no idea if we will understand them though. In this day and age, you would expect they would email them as it is a lot quicker and cheaper, but hey.

Just received the letter. All good. Phew!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Just received the letter. All good. Phew!

Great news

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Poland seem to me having the same fate as NZ/Australia

One of the strictest lock down and now cases are going through the roof

Poland, according to the rolling 14 day data released by the EU has a level of cases to 100,000 people of 26.2. Australia is 96.6 and N Zealand is 34. So hardly comparable to Oz but similar to NZ which is at the moment, in spite of what Trump has said, not doing all that badly.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Couple of papers this morning.

If we go into a second national lockdown Boris May as well resign at the same time.

Once again though, the papers go for the cheap headline. Analysis of the situation gives a far better picture than suggested. I know things can go pear shaped pretty quickly, but there is no need for those publications to behave so irresponsibly.