Billy the Fish
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Agreed, although I think the scenario is already being played out across other parts of Europe with infection numbers still falling.
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Agreed, although I think the scenario is already being played out across other parts of Europe with infection numbers still falling.
Weststander
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The US head of CDC, a respected scientist, said in April that this autumn could give a significant second spike, due to a perfect storm covid19 and the onset of seasonal flu. Trump tried to get him to lie by retracting the statement …. he didn't.
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This may be it, halfway down the page
https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441
I got it from a link posted by a [MENTION=9458]Jimmy Grimble[/MENTION]
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-national-flu-reports-2019-to-2020-season
Might be clues in the flu reports. There's an annual one every year as well that shows excess deaths due to flu.
I am pleased to be able to say yesterday he was brought out of the induced coma a second time without any further incidents and is breathing unaided he's still in intensive care and heavily sedated not out of the woods yet but it's the first bit of real progress in a couple of weeks
Jimmy Grimble
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This may be it, halfway down the page
https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441
I got it from a link posted by a [MENTION=9458]Jimmy Grimble[/MENTION]
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nicko31
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Interesting looking back in the early stages of this thread. Some NSC posters were on the ball, this on the 26th Jan...
Meanwhile half the government were getting excited about Boris's bunging a bob for Big Ben
Meanwhile half the government were getting excited about Boris's bunging a bob for Big Ben
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
What are you basing the claims that the virus is not seasonal on and is unlikely to return? That seems very wishful and as far as I can see from Googling, there are many more scientists believing that it is like the flu and will probably return come autumn. There are very few articles stating it will simply peter out.
You talk about a second spike, but just because one doesn't appear soon, does not indicate that coronavirus has gone away. It may return in September when the weather cools, we are all stuck in a little more and when more kids return to school. I read a Harvard paper that showed that the swine flu outbreak died down in a similar way to the current virus but then rebounded when September came, much of this was attributed to returning school-children.
AmexRuislip
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Ellie from Kent asks a question about kids going back to school safely at the daily brief today.
Matt Hancock "I understand where you are Cumming from"
Matt Hancock "I understand where you are Cumming from"
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Wouldn’t happen in Germany ...oh hang on
..copied across from the Guardian website
Control over Germany’s lockdown measures is increasingly slipping from Angela Merkel’s grasp as more federal states announced unilateral steps to loosen restrictions, creating a patchwork of wildly varying rules on social distancing within the country.
Winfried Kretschmann, the premier of Baden-Württemberg, announced on Tuesday his state would from 1 June allow seated public events with up to 100 people, adding that there were no plans for further plans to hold the video conferences in which the leaders of Germany’s 16 Länder had until now coordinated their handling of the pandemic.
Other states simultaneously announced they would loosen restrictions around different parts of public life: the mayor of Hamburg, for example, said the city state would over the coming days reopen cinemas, open-air swimming pools and gyms.
On Monday, Merkel’s government had postponed a meeting of its “corona cabinet” after the premier of Thuringia announced plans to end both the obligatory wearing of face coverings and the limit on the number of people allowed to gather within the next two weeks.
Leftwing state premier Bodo Ramelow said on Tuesday that mandatory mask-wearing on public transport, as well as the required 1.5-metre safety distance, would remain in place for now.
On Wednesday, Merkel’s cabinet will vote on a motion to lift the current travel warning on 31 European countries by 15 June, thus potentially allowing German tourists to travel abroad for their summer holidays this year.
Under the proposal, the general travel warning that has been in place since 17 March would be replaced by individual travel advice tailored to the spread of the pandemic in each country.
..copied across from the Guardian website
Control over Germany’s lockdown measures is increasingly slipping from Angela Merkel’s grasp as more federal states announced unilateral steps to loosen restrictions, creating a patchwork of wildly varying rules on social distancing within the country.
Winfried Kretschmann, the premier of Baden-Württemberg, announced on Tuesday his state would from 1 June allow seated public events with up to 100 people, adding that there were no plans for further plans to hold the video conferences in which the leaders of Germany’s 16 Länder had until now coordinated their handling of the pandemic.
Other states simultaneously announced they would loosen restrictions around different parts of public life: the mayor of Hamburg, for example, said the city state would over the coming days reopen cinemas, open-air swimming pools and gyms.
On Monday, Merkel’s government had postponed a meeting of its “corona cabinet” after the premier of Thuringia announced plans to end both the obligatory wearing of face coverings and the limit on the number of people allowed to gather within the next two weeks.
Leftwing state premier Bodo Ramelow said on Tuesday that mandatory mask-wearing on public transport, as well as the required 1.5-metre safety distance, would remain in place for now.
On Wednesday, Merkel’s cabinet will vote on a motion to lift the current travel warning on 31 European countries by 15 June, thus potentially allowing German tourists to travel abroad for their summer holidays this year.
Under the proposal, the general travel warning that has been in place since 17 March would be replaced by individual travel advice tailored to the spread of the pandemic in each country.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Peston's kneecapping was worth the licence fee alone.
oldboyroy
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Was peston just simply cut off within 30 seconds?
Eggman
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More doom and gloom on BBC news at 10.
No good news there.
Saying a second wave is inevitable....!
No good news there.
Saying a second wave is inevitable....!
Well...
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Weststander
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The tourism free for all has been on the cards for a while, the state head of tourism announced on 5 May that Balearics type holidays were likely for Germans this summer. By the middle of June most of Europe will be open to travel and tourism.
Not so, yet - UK, ROI, Denmark, Finland and Norway.
Weststander
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It is, isn’t it, epidemiologists have said this throughout. But this time, measures and PPE will be in place here and elsewhere.
Maybe not. I know two people who were asked to be involved in the random testing (rather than those seeking to be tested). They both tested positive despite having no symptoms whatsoever. So - there may be far more immunity out there than we think - which will help with a second wave. Also, it has to be said that this first wave will have taken a lot of people who were susceptible - leaving a less vulnerable population for any second wave.
Mind you - these two didn't get their result for five days, which was a bit late to start self-isolating!
oldboyroy
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Oh dear an mp not following the rules having a home party! Let the party begin!
Solid at the back
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I'd lost it apparently