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pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Speaking of Patel...

"Double prison sentence' for anyone who coughs on people earning less than £25,600 p.a

She's a strong woman

Dont see how a custodial sentence for common assault has its length determined by the salary of people being coughed on.......did you just make that bit up?
 




The Wizard

Well-known member
Jul 2, 2009
18,399
Interesting that a study done by scientists in Sweden has shown there has been zero cases of a child or teacher catching/spreading coronavirus in school, despite the fact they have kept schools open throughout. The unions demands in this country are starting to look mildly insane.
 




Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
20,669
Born In Shoreham
Interesting that a study done by scientists in Sweden has shown there has been zero cases of a child or teacher catching/spreading coronavirus in school, despite the fact they have kept schools open throughout. The unions demands in this country are starting to look mildly insane.
The only people I know of you had Covid and suffered with it were school teachers :shrug:
 


darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
7,652
Sittingbourne, Kent
Interesting that a study done by scientists in Sweden has shown there has been zero cases of a child or teacher catching/spreading coronavirus in school, despite the fact they have kept schools open throughout. The unions demands in this country are starting to look mildly insane.

Couldn’t find anything on schools, but did find this less than glowing article on Sweden’s approach.

https://www.france24.com/en/20200517-sweden-s-covid-19-strategy-has-caused-an-amplification-of-the-epidemic

Maybe Dominic Cummings has a Swedish cousin...
 












Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,740
Eastbourne
Interesting that a study done by scientists in Sweden has shown there has been zero cases of a child or teacher catching/spreading coronavirus in school, despite the fact they have kept schools open throughout. The unions demands in this country are starting to look mildly insane.

The Unions are only wanting to see the evidence the government has for re-opening schools particularly given that some areas have a higher R than others. This is reasonable given the outbreak we have just come through. Citing one study is not really evidence on its own. The BMA are cautious about schools re-opening and the NHS today has said it wants evidence from the government about tracing before extra lockdown measures are eased. There is a lot of conflicting information out there and in the end 'The Unions' are representing their members. In my experience, I have never seen such unified views in school from the cleaners up to the heads, and my colleagues (unlike some schools I have worked in) are not politically motivated.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,740
Eastbourne








FindonFan

Well-known member
Jul 15, 2014
2,682
I’m confused - perhaps somebody can explain the following:
On the 19th of May Worldometer recorded the UK total cases as 248,818. Yesterday, the 20th May, it recorded the new total to be 248,293. That’s 525 FEWER than the previous day. How is that possible?
Has there been an explanation for the above that I’ve missed?
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,106
Faversham
This guy absolutely SMASHES it out the park. The best portrayal of the true reality of our situation I have seen anywhere! Wake up people.

https://youtu.be/eB1eqvAxQAQ

Alternatively, according to the Law Gazette, completely wrong.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/commen...-is-wrong-on-lockdown-liberty/5104325.article

'Con' Sumption's libertarian arguments could equally be applied to the use of heroin, or drink driving. He defends going to the theatre while possibly infectious on the grounds that everyone else in the theatre knows the risk. Likewise, if we accept there may be drunk drivers then if one smashes into you in your car, that's fine becuase you know the risk of sharing the road with pissed *****.

The man is an idiot.
 




SUA Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2016
421
Stratford-upon-Avon
I’m confused - perhaps somebody can explain the following:
On the 19th of May Worldometer recorded the UK total cases as 248,818. Yesterday, the 20th May, it recorded the new total to be 248,293. That’s 525 FEWER than the previous day. How is that possible?
Has there been an explanation for the above that I’ve missed?

I’ve been tracking the Worldometer daily data too and noted exactly the same! It looks like there were 2,472 actual new cases yesterday which were offset by the application of an “historical data revision” downward adjustment of 2,997 past cases, resulting in a net overall reduction of 525 cases on the day. I'd previously noted a few weeks ago that France did the same (for both cases and deaths). However, I haven't found a specific reason cited for the downward adjustment.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronav...ion-for-the-public#number-of-cases-and-deaths
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,889
Guiseley
Alternatively, according to the Law Gazette, completely wrong.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/commen...-is-wrong-on-lockdown-liberty/5104325.article

'Con' Sumption's libertarian arguments could equally be applied to the use of heroin, or drink driving. He defends going to the theatre while possibly infectious on the grounds that everyone else in the theatre knows the risk. Likewise, if we accept there may be drunk drivers then if one smashes into you in your car, that's fine becuase you know the risk of sharing the road with pissed *****.

The man is an idiot.

I can't agree with this. One big difference being a drink driver would knowingly drink, then knowingly drive - whereas he's talking about an asymptomatic person who doesn't know anything.

Furthermore an asymptomatic person is likely to be a low risk of spreading the virus, particularly as the main method of spread of the virus is coughing.
 


loz

Well-known member
Apr 27, 2009
2,482
W.Sussex
Alternatively, according to the Law Gazette, completely wrong.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/commen...-is-wrong-on-lockdown-liberty/5104325.article

'Con' Sumption's libertarian arguments could equally be applied to the use of heroin, or drink driving. He defends going to the theatre while possibly infectious on the grounds that everyone else in the theatre knows the risk. Likewise, if we accept there may be drunk drivers then if one smashes into you in your car, that's fine becuase you know the risk of sharing the road with pissed *****.

The man is an idiot.

Every time I drive I keep aware that there maybe a drunk driver/ boy racer just about to smash into me....I do know the risk of driving, I just try to be aware. Likewise I know the risk ( very small) of me dying of a virus, I just keep awear.

We cant spend the rest of our lives wrapped in cotton wool, the virus is hear and maybe here to stay...get on with it and be careful.

You maybe prepared to never go to football, cricket, pub or gig again but I am not, TBH these are things that make life worth living and family of course.
 


Mr Banana

Tedious chump
Aug 8, 2005
5,491
Standing in the way of control
I’ve been tracking the Worldometer daily data too and noted exactly the same! It looks like there were 2,472 actual new cases yesterday which were offset by the application of an “historical data revision” downward adjustment of 2,997 past cases, resulting in a net overall reduction of 525 cases on the day. I'd previously noted a few weeks ago that France did the same (for both cases and deaths). However, I haven't found a specific reason cited for the downward adjustment.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronav...ion-for-the-public#number-of-cases-and-deaths

Worldometer isn't necessarily accurate: https://edition.cnn.com/videos/worl...ott-mclean-coronavirus-statistics-pkg-vpx.cnn
 




Albion Dan

Banned
Jul 8, 2003
11,125
Peckham
Alternatively, according to the Law Gazette, completely wrong.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/commen...-is-wrong-on-lockdown-liberty/5104325.article

'Con' Sumption's libertarian arguments could equally be applied to the use of heroin, or drink driving. He defends going to the theatre while possibly infectious on the grounds that everyone else in the theatre knows the risk. Likewise, if we accept there may be drunk drivers then if one smashes into you in your car, that's fine becuase you know the risk of sharing the road with pissed *****.

The man is an idiot.

What an absolutely absurd comparison, talk about clutching at straws. Some people just don't want to hear the truth.
 


SUA Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 23, 2016
421
Stratford-upon-Avon

That may be true for other countries (I haven't checked their sources) but for the UK they include against each day's stats a link to their source data, typically an official Gov.UK page or Department of Health and Social Care link, which you can find in the "Latest News" section of the link below against each date's "[source]".

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
 


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