Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Nathan]

Same for my wife too. I know it's a bit scary, but I think about partners of those working on the front line of the NHS, I would be worried sick. I do see the point about your kids though. Look at this way, there won't be hardly any kids in school anyway, so will be a lot safer than having a packed school, if that helps. It's going to be a tough time for all, and we all have different situations.

Thanks for the message, glad I am not alone. Totally see the bigger picture and why this has to happen, just worrying times for everyone.

 

[CheeseRolls]

I think a few people on here have lost all perspective. I am sensibly distancing, I’m not isolating, I’m minding who I have contact with and minimise that contact.
I’ve cancelled trips and pub visits. I still use the gym for the moment and go walking. Ive cancelled afternoon tea.
I’m still going to work.
But no, I’m not staying indoors.
To some, that translates as I’m going out and licking pensioners faces.

All sounds perfectly sensible for now. I think gyms will shut and it probably won't be that far off. Walking outside makes sense for healthy people. Please stay off the wrinkly licking though.

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[Blue3]

That’s confirmed cases . Didn’t the who estimate 50,000 uk as of a few days ago .

Death rate in reality pretty low

Yes confirmed numbers until they come up with a test to show the presence of antibodies it's the only definitive numbers we have

 

[The Clamp]

All sounds perfectly sensible for now. I think gyms will shut and it probably won't be that far off. Walking outside makes sense for healthy people. Please stay off the wrinkly licking though.

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All so frustrating. If those that need to isolate actually followed the advice, there’d be no need for any of this .

 

[Insel affe]

With the part closure of the transport system it is a given London will be on lock down by the weekend, country to follow.

 

[Bold Seagull]

With the part closure of the transport system it is a given London will be on lock down by the weekend, country to follow.

Unless the data supports it, you wouldn’t need a blanket lockdown would you? If you commit to much more testing, tracking and isolating, regions with very few cases could remain on social distancing without lockdown. London seems likely because it’s exponentially on the graph. Think with technology and testing you could limit lockdowns to specific regions with growing case numbers?

These are questions really rather than statements.

 

[peterward]

Rushed back from my job this morning hoping to get my mum in to Sainsbury's for the OAP slot. Got there 7:05, turned around and came back home. Car park full and queues going up the road, never seen anything like it in my life. Sainsbury's Newhaven like a lot of other supermarkets will be cleared in hours. This can't go on.

Heres the evidence your honour.

http://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=882652262195522&id=100013522681400&scmts=scwspsdd&extid=6Cz5he4QeBSU9QYy

 

[dazzer6666]

Same for my wife too. I know it's a bit scary, but I think about partners of those working on the front line of the NHS, I would be worried sick. I do see the point about your kids though. Look at this way, there won't be hardly any kids in school anyway, so will be a lot safer than having a packed school, if that helps. It's going to be a tough time for all, and we all have different situations.

This - daughter is a nurse and has some autoimmune issues herself - she's terrified (as I am), but obviously at work.

 

[The Clamp]

With the part closure of the transport system it is a given London will be on lock down by the weekend, country to follow.

Maybe. Maybe not. But this is the sort of rumour mongering that strips shelves of toilet paper and food.
Seriously. This stuff spreads faster and is genuinely more harmful than the virus.

Please think about what you post on social media, there are a lot of already jumpy people out there.

 

[vagabond]

He is right.

Lazy poor comment. What point is right?

I pose the same question to you:

Name a year when the world has had seen sanctions like we’ve seen this past week (entire sports closed down, cities on lockdown globally, schools closed).

I’ll wait.

 

[Blue3]

Radio 4 health matters yesterday were talking about numbers of ICU beds and a health official was saying how these would be increased and went onto say that the shortage of critical care nurses currently the standard is one critical care nurse per paitent who will constantly sit and monitor and adjust life support I have seen these nurses in action and they are incredable. With the increase in bed numbers the NHS is fast tracking other nurses to be able to perform some of the critical care duties the idea being each qualified critical care nurse will over see not one paitent but upto four paitents plus four fast tracked nurses, imagine the pressure that these nurses are going to have to shortly face.

 

[Hampden Park]

Social media and, to an extent, the news is causing all this mayhem. My military past and training is keeping my head straight. Panic spreading quicker than the Covid-19.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Maybe. Maybe not. But this is the sort of rumour mongering that strips shelves of toilet paper and food.
Seriously. This stuff spreads faster and is genuinely more harmful than the virus.

Please think about what you post on social media, there are a lot of already jumpy people out there.

There is no need to shut the entire country

 

[Nixonator]

I think a few people on here have lost all perspective. I am sensibly distancing, I’m not isolating, I’m minding who I have contact with and minimise that contact.
I’ve cancelled trips and pub visits. I still use the gym for the moment and go walking. Ive cancelled afternoon tea.
I’m still going to work.
But no, I’m not staying indoors.
To some, that translates as I’m going out and licking pensioners faces.

This all sounds entirely sensible, which is quite a disparity from your last posts asserting:-

There is no reason, if you are sensitive to the situation that most of us can’t carry on pretty much as normal while things remain open.

The vast majority of the population are fit and able and Covid 19 will not affect us. The vulnerable need to go into isolation and let us look after them.
Those who are fit and able need to be out there, keeping the economy going, exercising, socialising. Self isolation does not apply to the fit and healthy. Covid 19 will not affect us..

Which is fundamentally missing the point. How is anybody going to look after them without risk of transmission? Especially when adhering to your plan without further social distancing, where this thing would rip through the young and healthy populous, kill many of them in the process, while the old and vulnerable are just supposed to sit at home for an even longer period and let it play out with zero contact?

Utterly insensitive and irresponsible. Yes people need to remain calm, they also need to dodge the rest of your advice.

 

[peterward]

This - daughter is a nurse and has some autoimmune issues herself - she's terrified (as I am), but obviously at work.

It's disgusting the lack of PPE in hospitals. I have an autoimmune disease and am on immunosuppressent drugs.

Yesterday I had to drop off a form at my GP, then go to hospital for routine blood test.

GP surgery has a big automatic sliding door into a sealed foyer with door other side into reception. Yesterday there's a woman full mask, gloves and eye protection thing, vetting who goes in. Next to her another with a temperature probe. I was only dropping off a form, she took it and I wasn't allowed beyond the front door. Maybe a tad OTT but seemed more akin to what's needed.

Go to hospital take the cheese counter type ticket, get called into one of 4 blood test rooms, the nurse is about late 50's with zero PPE. Convo went like this.

"Are you scared being front line and being in front of so many people each day"
N-"we're all terrified, the only way to deal with is to try and not think about it"
"Could you not just at least wear a face mask like other front line workers do in other countries (then told her about GP surgery)"
N-"we're desperate to, we have families to, but the hospital management have insisted we can't as it will upset the patients"
"That's ridiculous, everybody would understand, that almost guarantees you'll get it and it will sweep through the hospital like wildfire"
N-"We've been saying this but the management wont listen"

 

[The Clamp]

There is no need to shut the entire country

Of course there isn’t. They need to strictly enforce the lockdown of vulnerable folk. Still so many old codgers out and about.

 

[Napper]

Social media and, to an extent, the news is causing all this mayhem. My military past and training is keeping my head straight. Panic spreading quicker than the Covid-19.

good post

 

[dazzer6666]

It's disgusting the lack of PPE in hospitals. I have an autoimmune disease and am on immunosuppressent drugs.

Yesterday I had to drop off a form at my GP, then go to hospital for routine blood test.

GP surgery has a big automatic sliding door into a sealed foyer with door other side into reception. Yesterday there's a woman full mask, gloves and eye protection thing, vetting who goes in. Next to her another with a temperature probe. I was only dropping off a form, she took it and I wasn't allowed beyond the front door. Maybe a tad OTT but seemed more akin to what's needed.

Go to hospital take the cheese counter type ticket, get called into one of 4 blood test rooms, the nurse is about late 50's with zero PPE. Convo went like this.

"Are you scared being front line and being in front of so many people each day"
N-"we're all terrified, the only way to deal with is to try and not think about it"
"Could you not just at least wear a face mask like other front line workers do in other countries (then told her about GP surgery)"
N-"we're desperate to, we have families to, but the hospital management have insisted we can't as it will upset the patients"
"That's ridiculous, everybody would understand, that almost guarantees you'll get it and it will sweep through the hospital like wildfire"
N-"We've been saying this but the management wont listen"

Yep, pretty much that - although there aren't enough masks anyway. Daughter works in a ward full of frail, elderly patients with all the issues you'd expect.....if it gets into that ward it'll probably kill most of them.

 

[The Clamp]

This all sounds entirely sensible, which is quite a disparity from your last posts asserting:-





Which is fundamentally missing the point. How is anybody going to look after them without risk of transmission? Especially when adhering to your plan without further social distancing, where this thing would rip through the young and healthy populous, kill many of them in the process, while the old and vulnerable are just supposed to sit at home for an even longer period and let it play out with zero contact?

Utterly insensitive and irresponsible. Yes people need to remain calm, they also need to dodge the rest of your advice.

It’s quite simple really. I carry on as normal as possible , adapting my behaviour as necessary. For example, I was going for afternoon tea but when I saw the amount of pensioners still out and about, I had a rethink.

When I started hearing reports form China I visited the supermarket day by day, gradually stocking up. I didn’t wait for an inefficient, self interested government to tell me what to do. Which means I’m avoiding the huge crowds at supermarkets. Again made up of pensioners who should be on enforced lockdown.

I’m on annual leave at present but my behaviour will adapt again when I return, which is likely soon as we have had all leave cancelled. We are essential workers in social care and will be going into work night after night, long after you are all locked down with Netflix and a scented candle.

You panic if you want. The man is not for panicking.

 

[dazzer6666]

Of course there isn’t. They need to strictly enforce the lockdown of vulnerable folk. Still so many old codgers out and about.

Town was quite busy yesterday - but probably 75% of people were clearly in the over 70 bracket, including those sat in the cafe having a 'group breakfast' of some sort, those in Costa and Nero etc etc and the one in Boots proclaiming she was 'self isolating because she has symptoms' but had 'come into town with her daughter to pick up a few bits and pieces'