Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[beorhthelm]

Seems like not everyone agrees on the timing of current measures.

It does seem very strange that the strategy that we are taking is different to almost every other country in the world.

and every other country is different to the others. so which one should we follow?

 

[Is it PotG?]

Difference here is all of my 75 mates doctors did something different.....

Which kind of proves the point; 76 different doctors, 76 different approaches.

Uncharted waters.

 

[Rugrat]

The second wave is nailed on when they ease the lockdown imo, this virus is not going to go away. Pretty well everyone is likely to be infected eventually aren’t they?

Unfortunately I think you could be right. Vaccine could be an answer but who knows how long

 

[Uh_huh_him]

The government have acted on their scientists advice. Only time will tell whether the tactic will work. No one really knows. Fair play for Boris to not follow the herd.

IMO, the Government are taking advice based on their objectives. i.e. protect the economy first and the people second.

 

[Nobby]

and every other country is different to the others. so which one should we follow?

Well I don’t think that there are any others that are sitting on their very well washed hands.

When the ex Health Secretary criticises the lack of any response it is a bit worrying, that’s all I’m saying.

 

[Driver8]

IMO, the Government are taking advice based on their objectives. i.e. protect the economy first and the people second.

I got flamed for suggesting that but it’s pretty obvious.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Well I don’t think that there are any others that are sitting on their very well washed hands.

When the ex Health Secretary criticises the lack of any response it is a bit worrying, that’s all I’m saying.

The ex health secretary believes in homeopathy and was known by his rhyming slang nickname to most in the NHS.

Actually that’s an idea. Let’s get the Coronavirus, dilute it in water while shaking it and give it to everyone. Back to normal next week


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[Hugo Rune]

And you believe them? More stupid than I thought. This being the Chinese who told the whistleblower to shut up.

That’s the point though.

They let it spread widely initially because they were trying to cover it up. Only when it was out of control did they start locking down.

 

[beorhthelm]

Well I don’t think that there are any others that are sitting on their very well washed hands.

no. there are however many with piecemeal response. silliness like closing schools while allowing international travel, measuring distance between cafe patrons so on. so in a world where there a wide range of responses, why assume ours is wrong?

 

[Bob'n'weave]

IMO, the Government are taking advice based on their objectives. i.e. protect the economy first and the people second.

IMO the people are the economy.

Economic, i.e infrastructure/transport/NHS/food-fuel supplies etc going into meltdown would have a higher body-count than any virus if people can't provide the basic needs. This needs to be handled very carefully, without panic. That's a tough balancing act. Keep calm and carry on is a good mantra, rationing supplies and making sure everyone has enough so that they don't go and help themselves is where we need to be for the coming months. The opposite to keeping calm and getting on with it is far scarier than coronavirus.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Unfortunately I think you could be right. Vaccine could be an answer but who knows how long

15 months I reckon.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Well I don’t think that there are any others that are sitting on their very well washed hands.

When the ex Health Secretary criticises the lack of any response it is a bit worrying, that’s all I’m saying.

Given the various scientific experts in their fields, virologists, doctors at the top of their professions all giving their opinions, I for one am about as worried about Jeremy Hunt's opinion as I am if Wayne Rooney came out and criticised the government's response.

 

[beorhthelm]

IMO the people are the economy.

Economic, i.e infrastructure/transport/NHS/food-fuel supplies etc going into meltdown would have a higher body-count than any virus if people can't provide the basic needs. This needs to be handled very carefully, without panic. That's a tough balancing act. Keep calm and carry on is a good mantra, rationing supplies and making sure everyone has enough so that they don't go and help themselves is where we need to be for the coming months. The opposite to keeping calm and getting on with it is far scarier than coronavirus.

well put. its little point having a complete lockdown for a few months if that leads to financial depression lasting half a decade - how many excess deaths could that result in? so balance is needed, and the general economy does need to be considered.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

watched the film 'contaigon' last night, highly recommended

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

This is so concerning. Watching the rest if the world act and we are trying to carry on s usual.
Criminal negligence from our govt

So what happens if we lock down and people start losing jobs/failing mortgage payments etc

Surely that is as big of a medical risk as not shutting everything down - stress/mental illness/suicides.

 

[Is it PotG?]

watched the film 'contaigon' last night, highly recommended

I'll try and catch that one later.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

IMO the people are the economy.

Economic, i.e infrastructure/transport/NHS/food-fuel supplies etc going into meltdown would have a higher body-count than any virus if people can't provide the basic needs. This needs to be handled very carefully, without panic. That's a tough balancing act. Keep calm and carry on is a good mantra, rationing supplies and making sure everyone has enough so that they don't go and help themselves is where we need to be for the coming months. The opposite to keeping calm and getting on with it is far scarier than coronavirus.

I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong to do so.
It may prove to be hugely beneficial in the future, it may equally backfire and be seen to be a disastrous.

I was just countering the view that he has listened to his experts view solely. His experts will have been set the parameters on which to advise.
Had it been solely on the health of the population they would have advised differently.

 

[Notters]

So what happens if we lock down and people start losing jobs/failing mortgage payments etc

Surely that is as big of a medical risk as not shutting everything down - stress/mental illness/suicides.

They've already suspended mortgage payments in Italy. If it was a widespread issue they'd probably have to do the same here. As others have said it's a balancing act.

 

[Bozza]

They've already suspended mortgage payments in Italy. If it was a widespread issue they'd probably have to do the same here. As others have said it's a balancing act.

Already announced by some banks - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51817947

 

[BLOCK F]

i've had a continuous "cold", bit of sniffle, slightly sore throat, since about November. if i got another infection i wouldnt notice unless it went to fever.

So have I.
I have had a flu jab and Pneumonia jab, as I had Pneumonia last February. Also had a precautionary course of antibiotics earlier on this year in January.
Haven't felt 100% for a long time and at 71 with slightly dodgy 'bronchials', I am a wee bit concerned, but not overly.