Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Albion Dan]

[MENTION=316]Albion Dan[/MENTION], I’ve been advised you owe REMF £50, cough up!

Yeah right, of course I do

 

[darkwolf666]

There is zero risk for me.

I work from home.
Food gets delivered.
I got out for walks at night.

The same applies for the family I am spending Christmas with. There is no risk whatsoever.

I fully understand where you’re coming from as we were thinking the same thing earlier in the year with the in-laws.

We said to them during the first lockdown, “don’t go out or have people in, we’re doing the same, so after 3 weeks we can come round to yours, as we’ll all be 100% virus free”. Not strictly legit, but like you thought it would be safe...

Great idea, until after a couple of weeks when we asked how staying in was going. “Fine, Eric from next door popped round for a coffee”, ”what” says I, “yes, only Eric from next door, he’s been coming in for a coffee once a week”...

So that will be the same Eric who has had his Grandkids in twice a week since lockdown...

Do what you think is right for you, but make sure everyone else is singing from the same hymn sheet!

 

[Poojah]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...navirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418

Supermarkets the most common exposure setting for Covid. Assuming this data is vaguely accurate, it does rather beg the question as to why pubs, restaurants and gyms have been shut whilst supermarkets are allowed to run with relative normalcy. I made the mistake of going to Aldi the other day, and social distancing wasn't even possible let alone enforced. That wasn't my experience the last time I paid a visit to the pub.

 

[darkwolf666]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...navirus-in-england-latest-data-shows-12136418

Supermarkets the most common exposure setting for Covid. Assuming this data is vaguely accurate, it does rather beg the question as to why pubs, restaurants and gyms have been shut whilst supermarkets are allowed to run with relative normalcy. I made the mistake of going to Aldi the other day, and social distancing wasn't even possible let alone enforced. That wasn't my experience the last time I paid a visit to the pub.

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I'm guessing, because looking at that list, Pub is the first one that isn't considered a "necessity"...

Also, reading that article says "those that tested positive between November 9th and 15th", pubs closed on 5th so not too much of a window to have got your infection at the pub...

 

[Poojah]

I'm guessing, because looking at that list, Pub is the first one that isn't considered a "necessity"...

Also, reading that article says "those that tested positive between November 9th and 15th", pubs closed on 5th so not too much of a window to have got your infection at the pub...

You're quite right, and I do think this piece of research appears to be flawed in that it seems to note that people who caught Covid had been to a supermarket and drawn a correlation when in actual fact supermarkets are probably the single public environment frequented by the public at this moment in time.



All that said, I'm surprised that more hasn't been done to enforce social distancing at supermarkets. There seemed to be far more measures earlier in the year, but most of these seem to have dissipated somewhat.

 

[Albion Dan]

Suspect practices suggest N.Ireland case numbers could be unreliable.

https://youtu.be/k4jpSdpbnAo

 

[Albion Dan]

Dr. Roger Hodkinson Former head of Alberta College of Physicians & Surgeons tells Govt of Alberta, CV19 response utterly unfounded hysteria & adamant PCR+ NOT a clinical infection.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/166dheuhZPIw/

 

[bWize]

Interesting article on front page of today's DM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html


Perma link:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-Covid-facts-twisted-strike-fear-hearts.html

 

[Albion Dan]

Interesting article on front page of today's DM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html


Perma link:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-Covid-facts-twisted-strike-fear-hearts.html

Someone will be along in a minute to say because it’s in the Daily Mail the stats don’t count.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Interesting article on front page of today's DM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html


Perma link:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-Covid-facts-twisted-strike-fear-hearts.html

Quite enjoyed the Gov tweeting the daily mail and not countering the comments, it went down well

 

[e77]

Someone will be along in a minute to say because it’s in the Daily Mail the stats don’t count.

Someone might be along to point out that with vaccines imminent the mainstream scientific and political view that most of us broadly brought into that we needed to baton down the hatches for a few months has been proven correct and we are tired of pointless debates about fringe theories.

The circus is leaving town.

 

[darkwolf666]

Interesting article on front page of today's DM

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html


Perma link:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...l-Covid-facts-twisted-strike-fear-hearts.html

To be honest that Daily Mail article doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know - it is predominantly those over 80 and/or those with underlying health issues that die.

That's ok then...!

They have also got their stats the wrong way round in the section "But isn't the infection rate going up?" where they say no, and talk about 1 in 80 people having the disease on week ending November 14th, but 1 in 85 having it the week before - that actually means the incidence is going up, not down...

As an analyst, much of the rest of the report doesn't really hold water, as it has been presented poorly and they have only focused on bits that prove "their" point and not looked at things as a whole.

But, it's the Daily Mail - so what do you expect.

 

[bWize]

But, it's the Daily Mail - so what do you expect.

They are certainly going for it at the moment

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...veals-public-sector-squanders-5-6bn-cash.html

 

[bWize]

To be honest that Daily Mail article doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know - it is predominantly those over 80 and/or those with underlying health issues that die.

That's ok then...!

They have also got their stats the wrong way round in the section "But isn't the infection rate going up?" where they say no, and talk about 1 in 80 people having the disease on week ending November 14th, but 1 in 85 having it the week before - that actually means the incidence is going up, not down...

As an analyst, much of the rest of the report doesn't really hold water, as it has been presented poorly and they have only focused on bits that prove "their" point and not looked at things as a whole.

But, it's the Daily Mail - so what do you expect.

The death rates for respiratory/flu-like related viruses are almost identical to the figures from November 2019! Around the 43000 mark. I try not to be too conspiracy these days but there is something fishy going on... Not suggesting there isn't a form of "Covid" but in my opinion it's a bad flu variant. Any nasty variant of flu (Hong Kong flu for example) will knock off the weaker/underlining sufferers in society. Always has done (especially between Nov-March) Strange how the Covid infection and death rate completely flat lined during the summer in UK, yet savaged Australia/New Zealand in their winter months? (Yet now they are reporting 0 infections now it's warmed up?) It's renamed variant of the ****ing flu!

 

[RossyG]

The death rates for respiratory/flu-like related viruses are almost identical to the figures from November 2019! Around the 43000 mark. I try not to be too conspiracy these days but there is something fishy going on... Not suggesting there isn't a form of "Covid" but in my opinion it's a bad flu variant. Any nasty variant of flu (Hong Kong flu for example) will knock off the weaker/underlining sufferers in society. Always has done (especially between Nov-March) Strange how the Covid infection and death rate completely flat lined during the summer in UK, yet savaged Australia/New Zealand in their winter months? (Yet now they are reporting 0 infections now it's warmed up?) It's renamed variant of the ****ing flu!

I’ve been saying this for months and always take flak for it but I’m more convinced now than ever.

Now studies are showing that asymptomatic people can’t infect others and that masks do nothing. Locking up the under 70s and destroying our economy over this was an act of madness, one we will bitterly regret.

And it’ll cost a lot of lives too.

We basically let China gaslight into acting like this. Remember those videos in January of people lying dead in the streets in Wuhan? Then when the rest of the world locks down it’s all fine and dandy there and they’re having raves in huge swimming pools.

 

[sparkie]

The death rates for respiratory/flu-like related viruses are almost identical to the figures from November 2019! Around the 43000 mark. I try not to be too conspiracy these days but there is something fishy going on... Not suggesting there isn't a form of "Covid" but in my opinion it's a bad flu variant. Any nasty variant of flu (Hong Kong flu for example) will knock off the weaker/underlining sufferers in society. Always has done (especially between Nov-March) Strange how the Covid infection and death rate completely flat lined during the summer in UK, yet savaged Australia/New Zealand in their winter months? (Yet now they are reporting 0 infections now it's warmed up?) It's renamed variant of the ****ing flu!

It is a coronavirus not an influenza virus.

 

[beorhthelm]

We basically let China gaslight into acting like this. Remember those videos in January of people lying dead in the streets in Wuhan? Then when the rest of the world locks down it’s all fine and dandy there and they’re having raves in huge swimming pools.

ah yes, all China. you forget the story from Italy and Spain in March, where hospitals were overrun with patients. you also ignore that the Chinese remedy was to shut people in homes for a couple of month with army bringing them basic food.

 

[beorhthelm]

The death rates for respiratory/flu-like related viruses are almost identical to the figures from November 2019! Around the 43000 mark. I try not to be too conspiracy these days but there is something fishy going on... Not suggesting there isn't a form of "Covid" but in my opinion it's a bad flu variant.

your opinion is based on ignorance. if we have same figures as normal with current social restrictions, that shows its actually very bad, without those restrictions numbers would soar. death rate last week in the North is 25-35% high than average obviously a clear problem. if not covid, what would suppose is causing this?

 

[keaton]

Oh good, a new round of "it's just the flu" and " it doesn't exist" has started

 

[darkwolf666]

The death rates for respiratory/flu-like related viruses are almost identical to the figures from November 2019! Around the 43000 mark. I try not to be too conspiracy these days but there is something fishy going on... Not suggesting there isn't a form of "Covid" but in my opinion it's a bad flu variant. Any nasty variant of flu (Hong Kong flu for example) will knock off the weaker/underlining sufferers in society. Always has done (especially between Nov-March) Strange how the Covid infection and death rate completely flat lined during the summer in UK, yet savaged Australia/New Zealand in their winter months? (Yet now they are reporting 0 infections now it's warmed up?) It's renamed variant of the ****ing flu!

Quick, ring Pfizer and let them know their scientists have got it wrong. I am sure they will be grateful for your expert knowledge and input which could save them from looking silly...