Albion Dan
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No but as Titanic needed evidence was happy to provide.
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No but as Titanic needed evidence was happy to provide.
No, you've failed to keep up with the conversation. You said that deaths were being exaggerated because those in charge want economic misery.
Albion Dan
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Really? I just posted those links that came up on the first page of a google page because you asked for evidence that there are doctors and scientists that don’t agree the lockdown policy is the best way forward. Evidence provided. In no way was I even referencing the content or anything about them or who they are. You seem to be getting incredibly confused.
Oh and it’s a fact youtube and FB are taking down content left, right, and centre that goes against WHO narrative. You do realise that’s censorship? It’s even referenced in those Daily Mail articles ffs [emoji23]
Albion Dan
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And you linked that to those fb posts which are unconnected. I alluded to something about motives but to have that conversation would mean going into all sorts of depths about how I (and many others) believe the world is run and best not debated here. Happy to take it to DM if you really want to have that chat.
And you linked that to those fb posts which are unconnected. I alluded to something about motives but to have that conversation would mean going into all sorts of depths about how I (and many others) believe the world is run and best not debated here. Happy to take it to DM if you really want to have that chat.
While I agree there is lots of censorship on social media (at least Facebook & Youtube, I stay far away from Twitter), they've never had "freedom of speech". The social media companies are private and dont need to follow any laws protecting freedom of expression.
You were replying to Titanic, not me.
Given that you're replying to the wrong person...
Firstly, YouTube is privately owned, and just one form of social media. Secondly, that's not a fact.
Here's some anti WHO videos on YT (and they've been up for weeks):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqWX8D_Tns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFTZawOc9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c07MnRmJPcI
No, it's not censorship. Firstly, you're wrong about them stopping videos, they're clearly leaving up videos that criticise the WHO. Secondly, censorship applies to authorities like governments, not private companies who are allowed to have their own policies. Just like Bozza can ban trolls from here.
The article refers to a specific video that the copyright holders own the copyright to.
You've somehow managed to get absolutely everything wrong.
Er, no thanks.
Albion Dan
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Correct, I was supplying Titanic with the evidence, so with the exception of stating the initial exercise was for Titanic not you (my bad) the rest of the content of my post stands soundly in counter to YOUR challenges to that post. I couldn’t care less who the Drs or scientists are I was merely demonstrating they exist, and am confident are all much more highly qualified than you or I on the right or wrongs on how to handle this scenario.
And of course I know youtube are a commercial organisation and can do what they want but the fact is that they are censoring anti WHO posts even if some remain. Of course there are still some up (for now) but many many are getting taken down. Fact. David Icke, who I think talks shit about many things, has been completely deplatformed based on his comments. Brian Rose has had many interviews taken down. There are countless others. And as stated in those links I shared are even referenced in those Mail articles. Are you actually claiming that isn’t happening and isn’t censorship?
https://www.verdict.co.uk/youtube-coronavirus-ban-who/
Also you don’t even understand the meaning of the word censorship. [emoji23] Of course a private organisation can apply censorship. Even Bozza!
Here’s a definition that may help you.
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient."[2][3][4] Censorship can be conducted by governments,[5] private institutions, and other controlling bodies.
And you think I’m getting everything wrong? Wow.
Correct, I was supplying Titanic with the evidence, so with the exception of stating the initial exercise was for Titanic not you (my bad) the rest of the content of my post stands soundly in counter to YOUR challenges to that post. I couldn’t care less who the Drs or scientists are I was merely demonstrating they exist, and am confident are all much more highly qualified than you or I on the right or wrongs on how to handle this scenario.
And of course I know youtube are a commercial organisation and can do what they want but the fact is that they are censoring anti WHO posts even if some remain. Of course there are still some up (for now) but many many are getting taken down. Fact. David Icke, who I think talks shit about many things, has been completely deplatformed based on his comments. Brian Rose has had many interviews taken down. There are countless others. And as stated in those links I shared are even referenced in those Mail articles. Are you actually claiming that isn’t happening and isn’t censorship?
https://www.verdict.co.uk/youtube-coronavirus-ban-who/
Also you don’t even understand the meaning of the word censorship. [emoji23] Of course a private organisation can apply censorship. Even Bozza!
Here’s a definition that may help you.
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient."[2][3][4] Censorship can be conducted by governments,[5] private institutions, and other controlling bodies.
And you think I’m getting everything wrong? Wow.
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Albion Dan
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Good it would be a very challenging conversation to have with someone who doesn’t understand what the word censorship means.
clapham_gull
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David Icke has been in the last chance saloon for years. way beyond the pandemic. Banned internationally and well as domestically for his antisemitic nonsense. Long time coming.
You can still buy his books, visit his website and drown in the nonsense his supporters spout on his forum. You can also still buy the ridiculous products Alex Jones peddles.
I do laugh at those who attack the "mainstream media" and seek out other sources, get a bit shitty when their heroes aren't allowed to appear on it.
How very very Trump.
Albion Dan
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Icke was just an (obvious) example and the easiest to shoot down to be honest. Like I said I disagree with a lot of what he says.
It is a fact that Youtube are taking down lots of content that contradicts anything WHO though. Even the bbc have reported on it:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-52388586
Icke was just an (obvious) example and the easiest to shoot down to be honest. Like I said I disagree with a lot of what he says.
It is a fact that Youtube are taking down lots of content that contradicts anything WHO though. Even the bbc have reported on it:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-52388586
clapham_gull
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You brought him up.Not sure you mean by "even the BBC". They are just reporting a story.
Albion Dan
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I know I did as he’s the most prominent example.
Yes the BBC are reporting the story that YouTube are removing content that challenges what the WHO say about covid and how it should be managed. I said “even the BBC” because it highlights how common knowledge and well reported YouTube’s censorship policy is which others (not you) don’t seem to know exists at all.
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I have a question, and apologies if it has been covered previously.
How come the daily infection rates shown on the WHO website and the UK Gov website are so massively different? It seems on the UK Gov website the results are only shown for England as opposed to the whole UK (not sure why). But that doesn't explain the huge difference, deaths are more closely matched and data for this DOES include the whole of the UK. Not sure why they don't match up.
WHO Data: https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/gb
UK Gov Data: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
So just as an example, if we take Thursday 7th May:
WHO says: 6,211 new cases | 649 deaths
UK Gov says: 527 new cases | 539 deaths
or the day before, Wednesday 6th May:
WHO says: 4,406 new cases | 693 deaths
UK Gov says: 1,137 new cases | 649 deaths
How come the daily infection rates shown on the WHO website and the UK Gov website are so massively different? It seems on the UK Gov website the results are only shown for England as opposed to the whole UK (not sure why). But that doesn't explain the huge difference, deaths are more closely matched and data for this DOES include the whole of the UK. Not sure why they don't match up.
WHO Data: https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/gb
UK Gov Data: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
So just as an example, if we take Thursday 7th May:
WHO says: 6,211 new cases | 649 deaths
UK Gov says: 527 new cases | 539 deaths
or the day before, Wednesday 6th May:
WHO says: 4,406 new cases | 693 deaths
UK Gov says: 1,137 new cases | 649 deaths
Wrong-Direction
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They've only just realised after 3 months that people coming into the country could be a threat. Seconded biggest death toll after USA (which doesn't mean much) have you remembered to take your stupid pills this morning?
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Just spoken to the head teacher at my kids school with social.distancing they are at their capacity of around the 20 kids mark. She is at a loss as to how it would be possible to take reception and year one in and if she did she wouldn't be able to continue the provision for keyworkers or vulnerable kids
So, a day later, listening to the radio and reading stuff, the bottom line as far as change is concerned is "Stay at home as far as possible"
If you can't, or decided to go out a lot (why not?) then how do you stay safe? Easy. Be alert.
It couldn't be any simpler, or more permissibe. You can do what you want as long as you stay alert.
Raab apparently gave two interviews this morning on the beeb, contradicting in the second what he said in the first.
I think they are beginning to cock this up quite badly now.
If you can't, or decided to go out a lot (why not?) then how do you stay safe? Easy. Be alert.
It couldn't be any simpler, or more permissibe. You can do what you want as long as you stay alert.
Raab apparently gave two interviews this morning on the beeb, contradicting in the second what he said in the first.
I think they are beginning to cock this up quite badly now.