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atomised

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Mar 21, 2013
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Oh dear it looks like Boris has had an f’in mare over this one. I’m astounded the schools remain open in complete contradiction to his other advice and he’s hung the hospitality industry out to die by not enforcing their closure but telling everyone to avoid them. Shockingly poor leadership. The governments approach has actually tipped me into concerned territory from relatively confident when I thought the tough decisions would be made last week. We’ll measure the cost soon I guess.

The Arts seem to have been thrown into a similar situation by advising people not to attend theatres rather than advising theatres to close
 




Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
11,125
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And if you had any confidence in the governments justification for leaving schools open whilst telling everyone else to stop socialising just listen to this complete bumbling idiot and realise they are making it up as they go along. Shambles.


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atomised

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Mar 21, 2013
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Yes because their insurance policies kick in. By not enforcing closure they are forced to remain unable to claim against these.


Pretty much my point on theatres. They've had to make their own decision to close so refunds will come from their funds rather than insurance. They've been thrown under the bus
 


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SK1NT

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Sep 9, 2003
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Is she still going in? Pregnant teachers I know have told heads they're not going in.

Yea she's still going in... she is worried but feels she has to go in because two other pregnant teachers are still going in :( i didn't know if i was overreacting telling her to not go in. Don't want her risking her job, especially as mine is gradually become dubious.
 




um bongo molongo

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Jul 26, 2004
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I'm no fan of Macron but this is what a real leader sounds like: completely decisive in the attempt to limit the spread of the virus but with a set of measures to mitigate the effect on individuals and businesses. It's a stark contrast to the bumbling fool that we've got in charge, one who can't take any decisive actions to fight against the disease or help the population

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEV6BHQaTnw&feature=youtu.be

Agree. But then I do think Macron is good at this sort of thing. Taken a strong leadership position on Climate change also
 


beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Yes because their insurance policies kick in. By not enforcing closure they are forced to remain unable to claim against these.

accept the point, its making major assumption the industry is widely and adequatly insured.
 






Bozza

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atomised

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Mar 21, 2013
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Schools and Unis closed by the end of the week latest if the government are going to listen to the Imperial College report.


That's what I was thinking looking at those graphs also I'm sure some time ago on here someone mentioned the next couple of weeks being school closure point.
Another issue at schools is the fact that parents either through lack of confidence in decisions being made or through following the guidance and isolating as a home are starting to take their children out anyway which may I fluence the decision
 






pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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Foodbank difficulties


Food banks across the UK are being forced to close or reduce the service they offer as the coronavirus outbreak leads to a decline in volunteers and a shortage in food donations.

Islington foodbank, which provides food to people in one of the country’s most deprived boroughs, announced on Monday that it would be closing in seven days' time in response to a growing number of volunteers self-isolating and a decline in donations – as well as concerns over risk of infection.

In a statement, the foodbank said the decision to close had been “difficult”, adding: “We understand that we provide a service to vulnerable people who may need us now more than ever, but still feel this is the best way to keep our volunteers and clients safe and minimise the risk of infection.

“In addition, we need a minimum number of volunteers at each session to operate but with increasing numbers self-isolating we cannot guarantee that. And finally, our food supplied are running low with donations down and supermarkets limiting how much we can order.

Other organisations running foodbanks across the country told The Independent they too were being forced to consider closure or reduce the service the offer due to difficulties obtaining adequate food supplies and volunteer shortages.

Nick Waterfield, who runs a foodbank in northeast Sheffield, said the charity was in a “state of uncertainty and flux” and that it had already decided to close what he calls its social café, where clients could go to have tea and discuss their problems with volunteers.

“Getting the stock in is one problem, but the social cafe is about social networking, support, but we’ve had to lose that. We couldn’t run the risk of doing food in the same way anymore, and having people together in one space,” said Mr Waterfield.

Paul O’Brian, who runs the Micah foodbank in Liverpool, said there was a “very realistic prospect” that they would be forced to close the service in the coming weeks, but that they were doing all they could to keep it open.

“Our volunteer base is mainly retired people who have got the time and the wherewithal to spend their time with us. Those people are nine times out of ten over the age of 65 and 70, sometimes in their eighties,” he said.
“Sadly we’re being forced by this situation to ask many of our volunteers not to attend for their own safety. Last week we were okay, we got through, but this week we are seeing the majority of our volunteer base to not come in.”

………
It comes as charities call on the government to increase welfare benefit payments to support low-income families in the face of coronavirus. Child Poverty Action Group said ministers should bring in a £10 per week uplift in child benefit for the duration of the pandemic.

Chief executive of the charity Alison Garnham said: “We are in very uncertain times and the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus will place additional financial pressures on families who are already struggling to get by.

“The policy solution should not be to turn to the voluntary sector to boost food distribution projects, or to create new ones. As well as the loss of their dignity, families being forced into food banks are likely to increase the risk of infection from covid-19 and further its transmission in already vulnerable communities."
Continues…..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...od-banks-close-poverty-shortage-a9405351.html
 


Jimmy Grimble

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Coronavirus / Covid-19

Looks like it could be as late as mid-April if they follow their modelling...

https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?378857-The-Coronavirus-plan-Stan

Isn’t that based on mitigation rather than suppression, which is what they’re advocating moving towards now?
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Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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I can't get my head round this.

Why are the government telling us not to go to the pub/social environs and not enforcing it ?

I really, really, can't get my head round this.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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If anyone on here is in the age bracket that need to self isolate, I’m in the Lancing area and so far I’m free to roam. If you need anything picked up from the shops etc PM me and if I can, I’d be happy to help. If there’s anything left in the shelves!
But yes, give me a shout and I’ll help if I can.
Take care of yourselves and stay positive.
TC
 






Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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I’m confused now.

Unless I’m tired/misreading, the article implies schools/unis should be closing under a suppression strategy?

Yes.

But if you look at the orange and green lines, they track together right now, so school closures make no difference.

It’s only when you get to around mid-April that closing schools drags the green line down and keeps it below NHS capacity.

Those diagrams perfectly explain the repeated mantra of closing schools when the time is right to do so.
 


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