Madeline - Breaking News

[Leekbrookgull]

Like Roz,posted always seem close to 'home' aka Huntley. Just how do the Police seperate the 'wheat from the chaff' ?

 

[Bad Ash]

And who are you?

Probably just someone who has read your posts. You don't usually come across as humble.

 

[Lady Bracknell]

Of being arrested, there's a difference between a "helping with enquiries" type arrest and the more dramatic being carted away in handcuffs with a blanket over your head version.

So being arrested can mean nothing more than having an interview under caution and certainly may not result in jailhouse door keys being thrown away shortly afterwards.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Portuguese law is quite different from English law in relation to arrests:-

The constitution and law provide detailed guidelines covering all aspects of arrest and custody, and the authorities generally followed the laws in practice. Persons can only be arrested based on a court ordered warrant. However, warrantless arrests by law enforcement officials and citizens can be made in cases where there is probable cause to believe a crime has been or is being committed and in cases where the person to be arrested is an escaped convict or detention prisoner.

Under the law an investigating judge determines whether an arrested person should be detained, released on bail, or released outright. A person may not be held for more than 48 hours without appearing before an investigating judge.

Investigative detention is limited to a maximum of six months for each suspected crime. If a formal charge is not filed within that period, the detainee must be released. In cases of serious crimes such as murder or armed robbery, or of those involving more than one suspect, investigative detention may last for up to two years and may be extended by a judge to three years in extraordinary circumstances. A suspect in investigative detention must be brought to trial within 18 months of being charged formally. If a suspect is not in detention, there is no specified period for going to trial. Detainees have access to lawyers from time of arrest, and the government assumes any necessary costs.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I think there's a Daily Mail/Sun-led witchhunt against the Portuguese police, and the only reason for that (apart from those papers' traditionally xenophobic stance) is because the police aren't giving them the sort of information that they need to sell papers.

Just because the police out there don't hold a press conference every five seconds doesn't mean they aren't doing their jobs, and it strikes me that the media are lashing out at that because they're being denied the oxygen of facts to report, so they're having to make things up.

I'll tell you now, if a three year old goes missing where I work, there wouldn't be 200 police officers on scene the second the report came in, nor would the airports and ports be closed or road checks set up all around the city. It might be a later course of action, but it certainly wouldn't be the instant response.

Kids go missing all the time, far more than you'd even expect, and most of them are found hiding under beds, or wandering around outside somewhere. Clearly that's not the case with Madeleine, but I think it's grossly unfair, when none of us have any information whatsoever about it, to cast the local rozzers as bumbling Inspector Clouseau types who can't do their jobs.

The Daily Mail spends most of its time slagging off the British police anyway, yet now we're the greatest thing since sliced bread? FFS

 

[NMH]

I think there's a Daily Mail/Sun-led witchhunt against the Portuguese police, and the only reason for that (apart from those papers' traditionally xenophobic stance) is because the police aren't giving them the sort of information that they need to sell papers.

Just because the police out there don't hold a press conference every five seconds doesn't mean they aren't doing their jobs, and it strikes me that the media are lashing out at that because they're being denied the oxygen of facts to report, so they're having to make things up.

I'll tell you now, if a three year old goes missing where I work, there wouldn't be 200 police officers on scene the second the report came in, nor would the airports and ports be closed or road checks set up all around the city. It might be a later course of action, but it certainly wouldn't be the instant response.

Kids go missing all the time, far more than you'd even expect, and most of them are found hiding under beds, or wandering around outside somewhere. Clearly that's not the case with Madeleine, but I think it's grossly unfair, when none of us have any information whatsoever about it, to cast the local rozzers as bumbling Inspector Clouseau types who can't do their jobs.

The Daily Mail spends most of its time slagging off the British police anyway, yet now we're the greatest thing since sliced bread? FFS

That the Portuguese bill didn't take a look at this bloke until a reporter mentioned him as suspicious, makes them look a bit dim

 

[DJ Leon]

That the Portuguese bill didn't take a look at this bloke until a reporter mentioned him as suspicious, makes them look a bit dim

And what evidence did the Mirror reporter have that he might be involved? She thought he was a bit odd, apparently. OK, her suspicion might be proved right, but it's hardly enough to divert an entire police investigation that way I suspect the police might have something more concrete to go on right now other than a Mirror journalist's hunch.

 

[Gazwag]

And what evidence did the Mirror reporter have that he might be involved? She thought he was a bit odd, apparently. OK, her suspicion might be proved right, but it's hardly enough to divert an entire police investigation that way I suspect the police might have something more concrete to go on right now other than a Mirror journalist's hunch.

and with £2.5m awaiting I guess quite a few reporters hunches may crop up with the hope of a nice payday

 

[Oscar]

I think there's a Daily Mail/Sun-led witchhunt against the Portuguese police, and the only reason for that (apart from those papers' traditionally xenophobic stance) is because the police aren't giving them the sort of information that they need to sell papers.

Just because the police out there don't hold a press conference every five seconds doesn't mean they aren't doing their jobs, and it strikes me that the media are lashing out at that because they're being denied the oxygen of facts to report, so they're having to make things up.

I'll tell you now, if a three year old goes missing where I work, there wouldn't be 200 police officers on scene the second the report came in, nor would the airports and ports be closed or road checks set up all around the city. It might be a later course of action, but it certainly wouldn't be the instant response.

Kids go missing all the time, far more than you'd even expect, and most of them are found hiding under beds, or wandering around outside somewhere. Clearly that's not the case with Madeleine, but I think it's grossly unfair, when none of us have any information whatsoever about it, to cast the local rozzers as bumbling Inspector Clouseau types who can't do their jobs.

The Daily Mail spends most of its time slagging off the British police anyway, yet now we're the greatest thing since sliced bread? FFS

I think you're missing the point that the press are vital in these cases not only in tracing missing/abducted kids but also in encouraging possible witnesses to events that might lead to posicutuions to come forward. Why do you think the family are so intent on keeping this on top of the news agenda?

Also, in this country there is a method in place where if a child is reported missing radio, print and TV are contacted immeduatley and in some counties automatically with the intention of averting tragedies. This was inspired by the abduction and murder of Sarah Payne.

Finally, it's hard to criticise the press for covering an event that the whole nation is gripped by to the point where they are even talking about it on football club chat sites.

 

[Oscar]

And what evidence did the Mirror reporter have that he might be involved? She thought he was a bit odd, apparently. OK, her suspicion might be proved right, but it's hardly enough to divert an entire police investigation that way I suspect the police might have something more concrete to go on right now other than a Mirror journalist's hunch.

So she should have just kept quiet then, is that what you're saying? This reporter is not in charge of police resources, she mainly did what anyone should do if they feel they have information that might help a case. It is the police who have deemed it necessary to act on it.

As for the reward money, why shouldn't the reporter get it?

 

[London Calling]

I think you're missing the point that the press are vital in these cases not only in tracing missing/abducted kids but also in encouraging possible witnesses to events that might lead to posicutuions to come forward. Why do you think the family are so intent on keeping this on top of the news agenda?

Also, in this country there is a method in place where if a child is reported missing radio, print and TV are contacted immeduatley and in some counties automatically with the intention of averting tragedies. This was inspired by the abduction and murder of Sarah Payne.

Finally, it's hard to criticise the press for covering an event that the whole nation is gripped by to the point where they are even talking about it on football club chat sites.

strange that because the media rarely get involved - unless its a sexy story to sell papers.

there was a referal above to the two white children and the huntley case, it was national news the whole time.

At the same time, two black children went missing in Newham. There was no national coverage, no media induced wholescale Police man hunt.


They have never been found.

LC

 

[Oscar]

strange that because the media rarely get involved - unless its a sexy story to sell papers.

there was a referal above to the two white children and the huntley case, it was national news the whole time.

At the same time, two black children went missing in Newham. There was no national coverage, no media induced wholescale Police man hunt.


They have never been found.

LC

But that merely proves that the press should be involved in these cases. You can't attack them for interfering AND not getting involved.

 

[London Calling]

Personally, as I posted elsewhere, the media can get involve to publicise pictures of the missing etc. But let the police get on with Policing , why should they keep the media informed of all of their work and as I highlighted above it disturbs me that

1) information is released on people / persons who have not been found guilty

2) the media is very selective in its coverage and what it deems sexy to sell papers.


A colleague at work suggested earlier, how different the coverage could have been, if it been a single mum, had lost her child, after she had gone for a few drinks?

And as I highlighted above the 2 black children , never received any coverage

 

[London Calling]

Personally, as I posted elsewhere, the media can get involve to publicise pictures of the missing etc. But let the police get on with Policing , why should they keep the media informed of all of their work and as I highlighted above it disturbs me that

1) information is released on people / persons who have not been found guilty

2) the media is very selective in its coverage and what it deems sexy to sell papers.


A colleague at work suggested earlier, how different the coverage could have been, if it been a single mum, had lost her child, after she had gone for a few drinks?

And as I highlighted above the 2 black children , never received any coverage, whilst the Soham case received more than enough coverage.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Personally, as I posted elsewhere, the media can get involve to publicise pictures of the missing etc. But let the police get on with Policing , why should they keep the media informed of all of their work and as I highlighted above it disturbs me that

1) information is released on people / persons who have not been found guilty

2) the media is very selective in its coverage and what it deems sexy to sell papers.


A colleague at work suggested earlier, how different the coverage could have been, if it been a single mum, had lost her child, after she had gone for a few drinks?

And as I highlighted above the 2 black children , never received any coverage

because the press use the same old chestnut " Its in the Public Interest", be it hounding celebs, the Royals, suspected murderers, peopdophiles etc etc. If this bloke is totally innocent, then what the reporter said is just appauling......" he looked a bit suspicious" - f*** me...everyone looks suspicious of something....!!!......" Oooo look there is someone lurking by the bushes....POLICE POLICE....oh, you were just retrieving a football....ah well, you looked suspicious!

 

[Springal]

He's been released not enough evidence to persude it at the moment

 

[NMH]

He's been released not enough evidence to persude it at the moment

Well, they might need to follow the bugger, in case he's got to feed a new pet.