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Herr Tubthumper

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Jesus. That was most shocking. Those cells are hideous: 20 plus men fighting, shouting and/or openly masturbating. Feral. And no signs of anyone attempting to stop it let alone rehabilitate the inmates.

The Strangeways documentary a few days ago serves as an interesting comparison. Strangeways looks like a holiday camp. That mental bloke who pissed on the floor and shat himself would not last long in Miami.
 








Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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Hardly anything new or ground-breaking - series like 'Inside America's Toughest Prisons' (and other similarly titled series) have been showing this kind of stuff for years.
 






Couldn't Be Hyypia

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Hardly anything new or ground-breaking - series like 'Inside America's Toughest Prisons' (and other similarly titled series) have been showing this kind of stuff for years.

Maybe that's not the point with Louis Theroux? Yes he documents the violence and the deeply shocking nature of the life of those who have to live there, but he goes further than that. He quickly develops a relationship with the people he is interviewing - he fully engages them even at the risk of physical or metal violence to himself - and in doing so lets us see inside their heads a little. We even saw a tiny peep into the head of the guy who was the "habitual mastabator" who is supposedly one of the nastiest of a very nasty group and could see that even he had a nasty side. Also the trustee who was sweeping up - despite a string of nasty crimes, I warmed to his intelligence and his openness. And then later Louis gets him to confess that he too is extoring things from weaker prisoners. Men who should have wanted to stave his head in, just for being white, free and shoving a camera in their faces, were chatting to him like he was a long lost friend.

LT's programmes are not about the facts, they just set the context, it always about people. Superb TV. Gripping.
 






Jul 24, 2003
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I'd love to see Question Time broadcast from Miami County Jail instead of Wormwood Scrubs, some of the politicians on the panel would be really sh!tt!ng themselves appearing on that edition .............

I can just see Jack Straw right now getting down with his homies in da hood like...........
 


bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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It's the same situation throughout America, people don't realise that life is cheap there. The only people who care about an individual's rights are the lawyers who make money out of the legal system. This is a country where 35,000,000 people have no medical cover at all, get ill and you die end of.

America is a graet place to live if you have money but it's a third world country otherwise. Their prison system would be at home in any poverty stricken country.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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It's the same situation throughout America, people don't realise that life is cheap there. The only people who care about an individual's rights are the lawyers who make money out of the legal system. This is a country where 35,000,000 people have no medical cover at all, get ill and you die end of.

America is a graet place to live if you have money but it's a third world country otherwise. Their prison system would be at home in any poverty stricken country.

And it will never change. Any idea that you might want to help people is considered to be socialism/communism out there.....and we all know about there fear of this. It's a very warped country at times.
 






simmo

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Hardly anything new or ground-breaking - series like 'Inside America's Toughest Prisons' (and other similarly titled series) have been showing this kind of stuff for years.

Indeed they have and they are great programmes, but I think the whole purpose of them is to frighten people not to commit crime (well to a US audience especially) which at the end of the day is what every decent person in society wants.

US prisons seems to generate an atmosphere that has man at his most basic and primitive and an ultimate survival of the fittest. It very much seems to be that the American state authorities believe prison is a form of punishment and we believe more in a place of rehabilitation, not that I want to go in either but if I had to choose I would definitely want to be inside here, but I do wonder which system (is prison punishment or rehabilitation) actually leads to less crime in general.
 


8ace

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Jul 21, 2003
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I'm still trying to decide which is best out of the practices I've heard about this year from TV programmes, grabbing or gunning?
 


magoo

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Not sure if it was my imagination but did anyone else notice that the inmates seemed more raucous and uncivilised when they had the bars between them and Louis and his crew? When he actually went in the cell to talk to them face to face they were more subdued and less rowdy.
 








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