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Losing Weight



leigull

New member
Sep 26, 2010
3,810
elninobonito - I would also recommend trying cycling, or using an exercise bike as you can do just as much of a workout as running, but doesn't put anywhere near as much pressure on joints and muscles as it does pounding the pavements. I do a lot of spin classes at the gym and it has got me much fitter than I ever was just from running.
 




gravnast

New member
Nov 13, 2012
103
I'm a fatty, and need to lose weight.

BMI is 28, and trust me none of that is down to muscle.

I want to know your personal experiences in how you lost weight, the best techniques you've come across ect, as I generally have no idea and am a amateur in the subject. (Before a few months back, I hadn't weighed my self in over 2 years).


So yeah, I just need tips basically, cheers.

You want to cut down on your pork life mate GET SOME EXERCISE
 


chimneys

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2007
3,609
So...good healthy folk of NSC, I have a porblem...Istarted this Coach to 5k thing a few weeksago after years of non exercise. Not going to lie, I was embarassed at week one at how much I couldnt run.

4 weeks later and I am getting on, doing about 4k now and finish the runs, albeit our of breathe etc. last week though I felt pains in both of my calves. I carried on running and then the pain was felt sharply in my right calf, I couldnt walk or put my foot down properly. After a few days it went away and I was stretching it etc.

I left it twoweeks which took me to Monday, ran about 3.5 k with intervals of jogging andwalking, longest contniuous run was 5 minutes, I then felt the pain again in both calves, not enough to stop but i slowed down as wasconcerned. Managed to finish.

Last night, I went again and straight away I hadthe pain in both, I again continued on and had the sharp pain this time in my left calf, I could hardly walk and managed to hobble home. today it feels horrible and stairs are a nightmare.

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong, I have tried stretching it and warming up, maybe I am not doing this for long enough? Having madeso much progress I am now so deflated to not be able to go further.

I am quite a heavy guy at 14st 13 and 5ft 9ish and running was finally seeing the pounds fall off a little.

Definitely your calfs i.e. right at the back, or more to side particularly inner side?
 


teaboy

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
1,840
My house
You're probably running too fast at the moment. Stretch well (holding the stretch for 20 secs+) twice a day. Make sure your shoes are right.

You WILL be able to run. I'd also recommend cycling as it's non load-bearing.
 


elninobonito

Whitehawk Born and Bred
May 27, 2011
652
Cheers for the advice guys. chimneys, I think its my calf, its right inside of my muscle so not at the side. If I press my finger right in the middle of my calf I can feel where it hurts.

I have been stretching it today and feel a little pain when I do. I will give swimming a go but wanted to get into running a little bit more. Its a bit of a pain to get to my local pool at K2 in crawley.

I think I'll make sure my shoes are correct too, this may be it? I have been to one shop and they recommneded shoes for me but sometimes they dont feel right?

Thanks again.
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,465
Hove
Cheers for the advice guys. chimneys, I think its my calf, its right inside of my muscle so not at the side. If I press my finger right in the middle of my calf I can feel where it hurts.

I have been stretching it today and feel a little pain when I do. I will give swimming a go but wanted to get into running a little bit more. Its a bit of a pain to get to my local pool at K2 in crawley.

I think I'll make sure my shoes are correct too, this may be it? I have been to one shop and they recommneded shoes for me but sometimes they dont feel right?

Thanks again.

I've always worn my own insoles in any of my trainers/sports shoes. You may want to try a decent insole out to see if the extra shock absorption helps. This type of thing: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sorbothane-Sorbo-Insoles-Size-5-6-5/dp/B00296PBDE/ref=sr_1_7?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1371745436&sr=1-7&keywords=insoles
 


BrickTamland

Well-known member
Mar 2, 2010
2,234
Brighton
Losing weight doesn't have to mean massive changes to your lifestyle. I simply started only drinking water (and lots of it) at home instead of soft drinks/alcohol. When I was out I had a coke or whatever like normal. Lost a few inches round my waist within 2 months, maybe less. Obviously if you need to lose more then other changes need to be made but nothing too dramatic.

I'd also echo what others have said in terms of not needing fancy diets. Eat less, move more. It can't be argued with. Stay away from too much sugar and ready meals and you'll be fine.
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,062
Gonna give this a go. First fasting day today and all I can think about is food already.

I've seen weight watchers do meals under 300cals and a soup at about 50cals. Probably the way I'm gonna hit it.

For me this diet could work. I like the way its only a one day fast at a time, I think I've got JUST enough motivation to get me through the day

Balloned to 16st from the usual 13 so I've set my self a target to get back to 13st by the 1st league game for local team: mid sept.


How did you get on?
 




imissworthing2

New member
Mar 15, 2008
1,483
In the Valleys
Not bad mate. Probably about 600-700cals which I think is a success. I havent got a digital scales at home so it was hard to work out the cals in some food i.e a bit of steak that had to be eaten yesterday (100g was 220cals so I just tried my best to work out how much 100g was)

Best thing about it is how I'm not so hungry all the time today (cant see myself eating anyway nr 2500cals) and also I have started to savour my food instead of plowing it into my gob.

I wont lie tho, it was hard at times and I was more irritable. I'm glad the next fast day isn't until sun/mon. Probably gonna aim for 1800cals on the non fast days too :)
 


BrianSwan

Active member
Apr 15, 2012
289
First of all, forget all this fasting shit..

You never want to starve yourself, at all.. or you will be tempted to give up and pile it all back on. You must east healthy at least 6 days a week, no sugar foods (Sweets, Chocolate etc) and on the 1 day you do have a cheat meal, make sure it isn't too much. Fasting also hinders muscle growth which is what will help the most in increasing metabolism and burning fat.

Train 4-5 days a week, lifting weights and Cardio, train each body part for each day and then do Cardio on the other days. You will lose fat extremely quickly.
 


Sarisbury Seagull

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Nov 22, 2007
15,014
Sarisbury Green, Southampton
I really got into running a year ago and was going most days but then seemed to start picking up impact injuries all the time and it was becoming incredibly painful going out which was obviously putting me off.

I then got a bike and started cycling all the time rather than running which I thoroughly enjoy but also felt I wasn't quite as fit as I was when i was running regularly.

So I've now gone back to running between 4 and 5 miles once or twice a week and cycling roughly 20 miles on hilly roads two or three times a week and I feel great now. Mixing it up was definitely the best thing I could have done, I feel fitter than ever and I'm not picking up the injuries anymore so I would definitely recommend doing both if you can.

The other thing that massively effects my weight, health and fitness as others above have touched on is consumption of alcohol. The difference in the way I feel when I go for weeks without drinking is dramatic so again I definitely recommend cutting that out or at least down. Its tough at first but I find the longer I go without the easier it gets.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,365
Worthing
First of all, forget all this fasting shit..

You never want to starve yourself, at all.. or you will be tempted to give up and pile it all back on. You must east healthy at least 6 days a week, no sugar foods (Sweets, Chocolate etc) and on the 1 day you do have a cheat meal, make sure it isn't too much. Fasting also hinders muscle growth which is what will help the most in increasing metabolism and burning fat.

Train 4-5 days a week, lifting weights and Cardio, train each body part for each day and then do Cardio on the other days. You will lose fat extremely quickly.

I was going to post something similar earlier, but decided to leave it.

To make it sustainable, you need a regime that you can live with long term.
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,062
First of all, forget all this fasting shit..

You never want to starve yourself, at all.. or you will be tempted to give up and pile it all back on. You must east healthy at least 6 days a week, no sugar foods (Sweets, Chocolate etc) and on the 1 day you do have a cheat meal, make sure it isn't too much. Fasting also hinders muscle growth which is what will help the most in increasing metabolism and burning fat.

Train 4-5 days a week, lifting weights and Cardio, train each body part for each day and then do Cardio on the other days. You will lose fat extremely quickly.

I was going to post something similar earlier, but decided to leave it.

To make it sustainable, you need a regime that you can live with long term.

Bit simplistic to dismiss it as "shit". I've stuck to the 5:2 diet for around nine months, and in that time, I've lost a couple of stone, kept to it, and managed to eat healthy food for the rest of the time. I'm not trying to force the diet down anyone's throat, but to say it's shit is just plain wrong. If you're looking to lose weight then it can work, and, as I've mentioned before, there are a number of health benefits to it too.

I have no problem with living with it as a lifestyle change; fasting for 24 hours is really not that difficult for me. I've been for long runs towards the end of a fast and suffered no ill effects. I'm also more alert, and can concentrate a lot better than I used to be able to.

It might not be for everyone – and you do need to have a certain degree of willpower – but it certainly works for me :)
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
How's everyone getting on?

Have been using MyFitnessPal for about 3+ weeks now and have lost half a stone already. Not starving myself, eating fairly regularly but probably cutting down on snacking a fair bit as it's depressing having to log all that food in. Also jogging a lot, which fortunately I enjoy. Great to lose weight without feeling like I'm having to go without or sacrificing anything. Just eating better and moving more.
 




Harry H

Comfortably numb.
Aug 11, 2010
978
Don't starve and binge.
Grazers stay slimmer as long as they graze on fruit and veg not burgers and chocolate.
Walking briskly is as good as running.
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
10,133
BC, Canada
Been on a fitness drive for just about 3 months now.
Cut out most bread and trying to stay off the biscuits!

Running 3x per week at 4+ miles each time.

Completed my first Triathlon (sprint) on Saturday and there's not a chance in hell I'd have been able to do that 3 months ago.

Through a good (but not too strict) diet and a great fitness regime, over the last 12 weeks I've lost 10kg / 1.5 Stone. Now 3kg away to my 'ideal weight'.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
Don't starve and binge.
Grazers stay slimmer as long as they graze on fruit and veg not burgers and chocolate.
Walking briskly is as good as running.

1. Agree.
2. Agree.
3. Disagree, unless you're willing to walk for HOURS. Source:

Paul T Williams, of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, said the findings were surprising but showed the key factor was the number of calories worked off in each form of activity. ‘Walking and running provide an ideal test of the health benefits... because they involve the same muscle groups and the same activities performed at different intensities,’ he said.

He estimates a person would need to walk 4.3 miles at a brisk pace to have the same amount of exercise as running 3 miles. It would take twice as long – around an hour and 15 minutes instead of 38 minutes, he said.
 


nwgull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
14,533
Manchester
Agree with your disagreement. Running is much less efficient than walking; hence you burn more calories. Metabolism is also raised for a significantly longer time after exercise when you've properly got the heart rate going.
 






Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,482
Brighton
Again if you want to lose weight, the most efficient way of doing it is to lift

Really? Doesn't that mostly build muscles though, that weigh more than fat? Surely cardio is the most efficient way, no?
 


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