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Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
I wouldn't say the U.S. has been obsoleting them at all!

Its been trying to, very weakly, since the mid 1800s! The laws are in place to have metric units used as the primary measurements, they're just not enforced; they still teach their weird imperial-size-names-but-different-sizes system in schools, etc.
 


bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
To be honest I spent some time in Dublin last year and would agree with MYOB. It's not Father Ted anymore and the church in Eire has about as much sway as it does in the UK now.
 






Grendel

New member
Jul 28, 2005
3,251
Seaford
Anything being produced as a "pint" has legally been produced as 568ml since whenever it was in the 1970s you brought in metric measurements; thats how.

Wrong. Draught beer and cider can only legally be sold in third, half and pint quantities or multiples thereof. Beer glasses are manufactured and government stamped to the relevant imperial measurement with no indication of the metric equivilent measurement whatsoever.
 


MattBackHome

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
11,876
Metric beer measurements RULE. If I was King, I'd abolish the Pint first thing Monday morning.

Then I'd destroy the monarchy and behead myself.
 


Its been trying to, very weakly, since the mid 1800s! The laws are in place to have metric units used as the primary measurements, they're just not enforced; they still teach their weird imperial-size-names-but-different-sizes system in schools, etc.
Extremely weakly, and very much not enforced! None of the weights I ever see are in the metric system. Certainly in practical terms, over here, the metric system basically doesn't exist.
 






bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Extremely weakly, and very much not enforced! None of the weights I ever see are in the metric system. Certainly in practical terms, over here, the metric system basically doesn't exist.

Hmm, that must be why you have to by fruit and veg in Metric wieghts, sugar comes in Kilos and milk comes in litres.
 


The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
The "travel ban" is different. Everything else, post-X, is virtually identical except for the implementation and enforcement, which are much heavier here.

And the reason for that, coming back to how this came up, is not down to any church influence - they have no influence - but down to the will of the people in the votes on the 8th, 12th, 13th, 14th and 25th amendements.

The 25th amendment attempted to reverse the allowances under X, and was only run due to a minority government who would have fallen had a certain TD (MP) stopped voting for them. That TD, Mildred Fox, demanded that referendum as she is viciously anti abortion. She's also protestant, not catholic....
Do you mean by that that 'Post-X', the UK and Ireland have similar abortion laws? I don't get your reasoning here. How can it be?

Abortion is illegal in Ireland, it's not in the UK, nor has it been since 1967. The times in Ireland where abortions have been performed have been exceptions and certainly not the norm.

In other words, the law has not changed, merely the allowance of an act under extreme circumstances whereby the rights and wishes of the mother-to-be, hitherto not given as much weight or prominence in law as the unborn child, had to be adhered to.
 






Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,880
Brighton, UK
Anyone who gives any kind of a shit about what the size of the units of beer they drink is called is as stupid and small-minded as anyone who gives more of a shit about what their money is called rather than what you can actually buy with it. I couldn't give a flying fuckery whether I drink a pint or a half-litre, assuming that I'm paying for what I get. And measurements that divide neatly into 10s and 100s are easier to use; how can they not be?

But the same kind of cranks were also no doubt adamant that pounds, shillings, farthings, two bobs and tuppence ha'penny bits and all that was a far easier system to understand than post-decimalisation currency. And they were wrong too. Today's decision is bloody stupid, IMHO.
 
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British Bulldog

The great escape
Feb 6, 2006
10,974
Anyone who gives any kind of a shit about what the size of the units of beer they drink is called is as stupid and small-minded as anyone who gives more of a shit about what their money is called rather than what you can actually buy with it.

It's not so much being stupid and small minded it's more a case of I know how many pints of whatever i'm drinking it takes me to start falling into bushes and all these mls and litre measurements just confuses the issue. :drink:
 




Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
I'm with MoH about not really caring how it comes but I think what pisses a lot of people off is that quite often the status quo is changed for no apparent reason other than change. Where's the justification for changing the pint (when referring to beer) and where's the justification for banning people from solely selling vegetables in pounds and ounces. It worked. Why fix it?
 


Heffle Gull

JCL since 1979
Feb 5, 2004
891
Heathfield
It's not so much being stupid and small minded it's more a case of I know how many pints of whatever i'm drinking it takes me to start falling into bushes and all these mls and litre measurements just confuses the issue. :drink:

Ah! but think of the fun you could have trying to work out how many Litres it takes before you fall over.

:drink:
 




Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,880
Brighton, UK
Ah! but think of the fun you could have trying to work out how many Litres it takes before you fall over.

:drink:

I can recommend going to Munich and/or Stuttgart in a few week's time and doing just that - about 4-5 about at the very most for me.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,425
Location Location
Milk is labelled in litres, but it is merely the equivalent of a rounded number of pints. In other words, one often buys often 2.27 litres of milk.

You can ask for and buy a pound of carrots, you will get charged for 454 grammes of them though.

I think that might just be the dullest post you;ve ever put on NSC.
Mind you, its in good company on this thread.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
I can recommend going to Munich and/or Stuttgart in a few week's time and doing just that - about 4-5 about at the very most for me.

what I want to know is how those frauleins can carry all those glasses (steins?). They weigh a bloody 1016.04608 kilogrammes and I need both hands just to hold one.
 


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